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Quick qeustion i'm confused
Offline Tranquillity
08-06-2008, 09:33 AM,
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Hi all, i have bin flying around new york, i'm seeing weird things. can some people explain to me ?

Can liberty police,security and navy use other faction weapons ? like nomads,outcast,Corsair and what ever they bring out to have an "strong" advantage in pvp ?

cause i saw an cruizer with an LPI ID and he uses outcast Inferno turret...i think thats hardly Rp ?
he said that Inferno is open to all capships.

One more thing some LSF,LPI,Navy or other facton in Ny doens't show up "red to me i'm rouge" why wont they "make there RP" as they should be ? i see some navy chasing me with there battle cruizer saying "halt navy" and they where "neutral colour"

some one explain these points for me ?

much thanks
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Offline RickJames
08-06-2008, 09:53 AM,
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' Wrote:Hi all, i have bin flying around new york, i'm seeing weird things. can some people explain to me ?

Can liberty police,security and navy use other faction weapons ? like nomads,outcast,Corsair and what ever they bring out to have an "strong" advantage in pvp ?

cause i saw an cruizer with an LPI ID and he uses outcast Inferno turret...i think thats hardly Rp ?
he said that Inferno is open to all capships.

One more thing some LSF,LPI,Navy or other facton in Ny doens't show up "red to me i'm rouge" why wont they "make there RP" as they should be ? i see some navy chasing me with there battle cruizer saying "halt navy" and they where "neutral colour"

some one explain these points for me ?

much thanks

Many people consider Capital Ship weapons, meaning Gunboats and larger, as generic for all to use. Some people disagree with that however. *shrugs* Many would say a LPI in a Cruiser is oorp...but some would disagree. *shrugs* I do not feel either is a major issue.

As to people showing up on your scanner as Green/White/Red....that has nothing to do with the other persons diplomacy....how things show up on your scanner is how your diplomacy is. If someone is Green on your scanner that is because you have them set to be green. If they should not be green to you then you need to go do some rep fixing.

In addition, even if you are green with someone and they are green with you and that is how it is supposed to be......people can still ask you to halt. They can still demand that you drop contraband and blow you up if you do not comply if they are LSF/LPI/LN. They can also still demand that you pay a tax or give them your cargo and blow you up if you do not comply if it is a pirate faction.

A Liberty Rouge can pirate and tax you if they want...and yes...I know your a Liberty Rouge. Nothing in the rules against pirates pirating pirates. Oh yeah...we need some more of that.
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Offline Tranquillity
08-06-2008, 10:04 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2008, 10:06 AM by Tranquillity.)
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' Wrote:Many people consider Capital Ship weapons, meaning Gunboats and larger, as generic for all to use. Some people disagree with that however. *shrugs* Many would say a LPI in a Cruiser is oorp...but some would disagree. *shrugs* I do not feel either is a major issue.

So basicly i can buy a liberty "battleship" armed with outcast shieldbusters and other "better turrent that outcast,rouges,LH,molly has to offer to me ? and tagged a rouge + ID cause it's fine.

i see lots of turret better then the outcast, but when i see a "liberty" or a kusari or bretonia name on it i would not buy cause it doesn't fit my RP and i wont OORP.

I joined up rouges cause i saw on there reputation sheet that they where "allies" with outcast so there for they could use there "weaponry" now LPI,LSF navy could use the same ? what is with that ? the littile "advantage" pirate has with shieldbusters on caps is now gone ?

sorry i think thats just OORP to me....
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Offline Markus_Janus
08-06-2008, 10:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2008, 10:16 AM by Markus_Janus.)
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Actually to met the way you said you joined the Rogues because they had a PVP advantage seems a little OoRP to me.
But yes Capital class Infernos, Razors and Mortars are open to all.
And no you can't buy a Liberty cap ship as a Rogue the same as LPI can not buy an Outcast Destroyer.

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Offline Tranquillity
08-06-2008, 10:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2008, 10:24 AM by Tranquillity.)
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' Wrote:Actually to met the way you said you joined the Rogues because they had a PVP advantage seems a little OoRP to me.
But yes Capital class Infernos, Razors and Mortars are open to all.
And no you can't buy a Liberty cap ship as a Rogue the same as LPI can not buy an Outcast Destroyer.

I'm for the Pvp, and ofcourse i choose a faction that is strong with pvp, i could pick the corsair if i want fighter advantage.

liberty already has a strong advantage to "fighter as wel to capship" fighting.
Infernos,razor,mortars open to all....:rtfm:*shifty eyes*

wel that means now i'm gonna see more liberty battleship with outcast shieldbuster...way to go...
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Offline KingAbbott
08-06-2008, 10:28 AM,
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I would acctually report them for using Outcast weapons on a Liberty capship since its just OORP and they just want to have advantage in PVP, instead of using their own weapons. Liberty should use LIBERTY weapons not outcast or anything else (except civilian, etc.)

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Offline Drake
08-06-2008, 10:51 AM,
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Fighter weapons and normal capship turrets are limited to your faction's weapons and the weapons of direct allies to your faction, generally. Capship Inferno, Razor, Mortar, and Cerberus (I think) turrets are available to everyone, regardless of faction, due to the fact that most factions don't have any 'special' capship weapons made for them yet. Not allowing them to be used by all would be giving those who could get them a huge advantage. At some point, I believe, the plan is to have special capship turrets for all factions (or at least more of them).
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Offline Linkus
08-06-2008, 11:43 AM,
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Liberty Navy ships do not have their own version of the inferno. Since people like yourself insist on dragging large capital ships down from Malta into New York, they need something to combat them with. Although bombers would do a better job, multiple capital ships fighting can be more fun than some bombers raping a lone capital ship.

No you can't get a Liberty Dreadnaught for the Rogues unless you RP it incredibly well with a lot of work. Anything is possible but you can't simply jump in an enemy ship and say 'I stole it' or the ever present and ever annoying 'I bought it'. You need a lot of RP to back it up and at least a few people to back up your story, in a respectable fasion.





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Offline Tranquillity
08-06-2008, 11:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2008, 11:48 AM by Tranquillity.)
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' Wrote:Liberty Navy ships do not have their own version of the inferno. Since people like yourself insist on dragging large capital ships down from Malta into New York, they need something to combat them with. Although bombers would do a better job, multiple capital ships fighting can be more fun than some bombers raping a lone capital ship.


Liberty are the once showing of there Big battlecruizer or battleShip they are the once chasing small fighters with battlecruizer and sorts like that.

So stick to youre RP and lay off other factions weaponary...:rtfm::nono:
Liberty can't stand when other faction pwn's them to dust....:nyam:
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Offline Linkus
08-06-2008, 12:01 PM,
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Inferno cannons etc are generally accepted to be allowed for use on most capital ships. Bretonian, Kusari etc.
May not make much sense but getting rid of them from some factions would cause a lot of complaining about balance. Logic wise however, Liberty and the other houses ought to have their own specialised weaponry. Unfortunately they have nothing currently, so they need to use weapons such as the Inferno.

The big battlecruisers and battleships have nothing to do with the use of foreign weapons, merely how much people in Liberty like their capital ships.





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