Police Factions - Ment to Fail?

[blubba]

Cut to the chase. Military can have anything from LFs up. The police are stuck with LFs.
This stops them from being a threat to smugglers/hardened criminals and therefore not a good career choice in the FL universe.
I think thats what you are saying.
In RP, a police man will not usually stand up to a heavily armed soldier in a one to one situation. Police need some sort of vehicle they can use to get the pirate/smugglers attention.
I'm not sure a policeman can't have a gunboat or a bomber. Ok, not many but have you been passed the houses of parliament recently?
How about some US embassy in some far flung country?
They don't just sit in squad cars these days with a pistol or baton. The majority do..... but not all.
I think they should be allowed a gunboat, maybe a few bombers. Put them on a duty roster (one per group or something). It should be enough to deter smugglers and even slow down the odd military incursion until help can arrive.
One other thing, why don't the pirates use LF's?
LF's can be deadly. Ask the Outcasts when they got the Tigersharks banned from the Corsairs.

Just my thoughts

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[Orin]

Gunboats for Police is a horrible idea. A Capital ship is the FL equivalent to a tank. Police do not have tanks. Ever.


It's really simple, come on:

Police. Ordinary stuff, Smugglers, Petty Crooks.

Military. Dangerous stuff, Invasions, Large Pirate Forces.

[Cawdor]

Do you guys think that the LF is a vital part the Police' identity? Would a rarely seen bomber squad be sufficient or should a police faction have access to all available fighter classes, like elgato suggested?

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[bluntpencil2001]

I don't think the LF is vital, but it would be seen as 'better', for the most part, getting nods of approval from all the cool kids like myself that have never wanted to fly as a copper.

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[hack]

I agree something has to change. Many nights when I log on pirates and terrrorists conduct a sweep and kill off all the LPI, LSF, and most of the Lib Navy, then for the next 4 hours it is a free for all in the NY system. The other night I was pirated 1 trade lane ring away from Trenton!

I can see why no one would want to play a LPI/LSF/Navy character:

1. Log onto your character and launch.
2. Try to clear out pirates and Psycopaths.
3. After 15 minutes of Playing, you are killed by a pirate/psycopath/whatever in a uber-massive-whatsit with level 10 everything.
4. Find something else to do for 4 hours.

Yes, I might have over exaggerated, but log on and see it for yourself. I am GMT -5. I normally log on around 9 PM EST USA.

Perhaps some co-ordination between the lawful forces could help. IF Anything, the Lawful forces need beefed up. . In RL if the police forces of a town could not handle a situation, the Military would get called in. If the LPI are getting constantly wiped out because they are using LFs, then it is time to give the LPI the equipment neccessary to survive.

And before I get any flames, I am working on a LPI/LSF character. That way I can be part of the solution.

Flames ignored, constructive critiscism welcomed.

Sorry to ramble......Its my nature.

Hack

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Formerly known as LPI Police Chief Hull O'Brien.
Creator of Sgt. V. Price, 207th Precinct out of Chula Vista Station

[Orin]

I don't see where this going. The LPI and I'd imagine other active police forces already use VHFs and Bombers in their SWAT teams. Gunboats aren't necessary.

The only problem I see is Military boredom and need to take everything into their own hands. If you want ordinary action, fly a Police officer. If you want hardcore military conflict, fly a Military officer.

[Haphestus]

well ive seen a group of liberty lawfulls mostly the advanced models destroy an osiris BS. it must of been about 6 to 12 ships there. most of them died but they destroyed the BS. really the only way for libertys defence forces to win fights the have to work in a group. swarming him would be the best tactic to take town these so called "tanks"

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Nano Machines, Son.

[Orin]

It goes both ways. Police forces should stay on Manhattan and eat donuts while a Phantom Osiris decides to wreak havoc.

[Linkus]

Comparing this to real life has far too many holes in it unfortunately. In real life the police are not being chewed up by Tanks every day. Space is a far more hostile place than ol Terra.

Honestly, I don't see much point in the police existing on the server. Nothing against the players, they do a damn good job with what they have but when every pirate has the oh so powerful weaponry and ships, they are simply outgunned at every encounter or so. In Vanilla FL, the police dealt with the little targets, the few bloodhounds or the occasional Dagger but never with Sabre's or Titans etc.

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Facilitating the rise of robotics since 0 A.D.

[Orin]

...they are simply outgunned at every encounter or so...

Explain to me how 2 Havok Bombers, and 3 of arguably the best LF in the game are outgunned against a Pirate Transport, or a Rogue GB with escort. Please.

The Police still have firepower. That's the only slight difference between RL comparison.