what's the point of this faction? to be good PvPers? pshht. You guys fail. seriously. If someone wants to RP as a Rheinland Lawful and Unlawful, let them. Or as a Corsair and an Outcast. It's when they use metagaming knowledge that it's a problem. And Johann is an awesome enough guy that he won't do that.
You may call it Multiclanning. Its not. And its not a problem. Here, lots of people play on different factions. You think because he showed up in an unlawful character to fight against you, he "backstabbed", you?
Wrong. Its the way we do things on Disco. I myself have fought alongside you, and against you. Its part of the game and how we play it. Its done to keep a fight even, and add variety and excitement ot the game RP and PVP.
If you don't get that, and think WE are all wrong, get over it. Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Leave your ego at the door.
And I have not seen any evidence you have spoken to Virus. That is a HUGE problem.
Absolutely misunderstood me. It was only an example what an RM grossadmiral asked check 1st page. I accepted when I start to play here how players can do it, absolutely dont said nothing against it. I said personally dont want to play those who - as the example said - one time fight with me other time against me. But that is my choise. And I dont understand why you think how I cant play RP only PvP? Because I like to win? Who dont like to win in fight? This is why Im PvPer? And another thing if we talk about examples. 3 RM member and 1 Rheinland and vs 1 corsair titan VHF. Who bet how Titan can stayin' alive more than 5 min? Well all 3 [RM] member died and the RM cruise cried for help too. When a BH cruiser arrived for Tauron's help calling the titan went away. Happened it yesterday. This is the last but not the only one event what can I say. It means to me not very good the team work in fight in [RM] and wont be better as I see. Its a blame, try to explain, doesnt matter, you cant. But Im a PvPer and a bad RPer coz I want better. I simply wanted a good fighting team and I dont closed from RM fully, but my experience say I can do it only those who are often there. Sorry I saw RMs rare (except 2 member as I said but 1 of them Wild too so ... ). This is why start to think in a different team. Noone like it, OK, doesnt matter. I try another way.
' Wrote:Absolutely misunderstood me. It was only an example what an RM grossadmiral asked check 1st page. I accepted when I start to play here how players can do it, absolutely dont said nothing against it. I said personally dont want to play those who - as the example said - one time fight with me other time against me. But that is my choise. And I dont understand why you think how I cant play RP only PvP? Because I like to win? Who dont like to win in fight? This is why Im PvPer? And another thing if we talk about examples. 3 RM member and 1 Rheinland and vs 1 corsair titan VHF. Who bet how Titan can stayin' alive more than 5 min? Well all 3 [RM] member died and the RM cruise cried for help too. When a BH cruiser arrived for Tauron's help calling the titan went away. Happened it yesterday. This is the last but not the only one event what can I say. It means to me not very good the team work in fight in [RM] and wont be better as I see. Its a blame, try to explain, doesnt matter, you cant. But Im a PvPer and a bad RPer coz I want better. I simply wanted a good fighting team and I dont closed from RM fully, but my experience say I can do it only those who are often there. Sorry I saw RMs rare (except 2 member as I said but 1 of them Wild too so ... ). This is why start to think in a different team. Noone like it, OK, doesnt matter. I try another way.
No this doesnt make you good or bad anything, it just is not the way we play here. You cant come into a community and say "I dont like the way the community does things, so I am just going to do my own thing." All the players here are members of the community, and you can't just ignore the way we play the game. We try and keep the game as friendly as passable, we try to experience the game from different view points, this is the way we explore the world of rp we have made for ourselves. It's not good or bad, and you are not good or bad, it's the way we do things HERE, if you dont like it, this probably isnt the place for you to play.
' Wrote:No this doesnt make you good or bad anything, it just is not the way we play here. You cant come into a community and say "I dont like the way the community does things, so I am just going to do my own thing." All the players here are members of the community, and you can't just ignore the way we play the game. We try and keep the game as friendly as passable, we try to experience the game from different view points, this is the way we explore the world of rp we have made for ourselves. It's not good or bad, and you are not good or bad, it's the way we do things HERE, if you dont like it, this probably isnt the place for you to play.
I thought if I dont use all possibility - thinking about multi factions - what rules give everyone thats not a problem but looks like yes. I dont remember how I insulted someone how his character are different factions. I said I accepted, but I dont do it, thats all. What I like and what I dont like thats only my choise and I can do it until I dont go against rules. Or it against rule how my characters mostly rheinlander and I dont have any what enemy of Rheinland? Hope no. If you have thats your job.
Im sure we can collect a lot of players who dont like something in game, in rules etc what you like (just thinking about bounty hunters crying how all bounty need to be posted on forum - check it). They need to leave because they dont like it? I dont think so (like you). We are different, we like and dont like different things, and maybe because Zelot RP idea different than someone other we can play here in peace. Or maybe you have right, and this isnt my place. Then I will be banned soon I guess. I think we can close this discuss about my place, my bad RP idea etc. Forget the RWK I see it was bad idea. Changing names soon.
' Wrote:Oh, I have one good reason that the RM looses some PVP matches that they should win easly.
*Ahem*
HORNVIPERS SUCK!
That is all
HAHA I think Hornvipers are at least as useable as any codenames against fighters, and Im ready to prove it in a guns only fight. Of course here are some other faction who has better.
I just have to say that I haven't been impressed by either the RWK or the DHC. I've had DHC "escort" fighters hunt me down, engage, and pursue me across New Berlin with no RP whatsoever. Not a single word was said, until I had made it to a safe range. Then I get a PM telling me to leave the system.
If you're going to chase someone down, please say something. If you're going to chase someone down, please have an actual reason. "Red is dead" is not a valid cause. I like the idea of there being a Daumann faction, heck, I was once part of the planning of one, but Daumann is not a military company. They don't go out and blow stuff up (generally). They buy out the competition and totally ignore pirates. They pay the military to take out pirates for them, and even still, only when they are pirating.
I also dislike your use of overwhelming force, but that is more justified. Still, 3 VHFs (I think) and a battleship to take down a single light fighters? That's a tad much, if you ask me.
Wolfspirit...I was concerned about metagaming like Dieter said. Johann doesn't use anything that he's seen/learned of RM when playing his Wilde character. He doesn't abuse it. That's the big thing.
You say that RM isn't coordinated. There's some truth to that. However, the longer we play together, the better we get. A couple of months ago it was hard to beat the RM in a big battle. Recently we've had a number of new recruits come in and high command has not been there. Gronath, Dieter, Kane, Virus and myself...we all had RL issues to deal with and the faction took a hit because of it. Now, we had a fight tonight and the only ship we lost was mine (doh!) but that's ok, it's not all about winning. I still had fun:D If you look at the bigger picture (NPC wise), RM *is* winning. We are the PC's that represent the 'winning' team. Join us and we'll help you to RP an RM character...with a mix of both RP and PvP.
I think you need to listen to what Xoria said and also get in touch with Virus. I will abstain from officially voting on this in the future since I'm involved in RM.
At first I was very excited about the DHC. With transports and escort stuff. But only times I've seen you in person have been in fights.
The same goes to RWK chars.
I really haven't had much of an interaction in RP wise from you guys. But truth to be told the situations have not allowed me either to really have an RP session with you guys.
Sure, everyone likes to win, buuuuut it's not everything.
I believe some of the frustration you have experience have been the nasty surprises that some of rheinland's criminals are the best pilots the server has to offer. And you have lost bad and against the odds. It eats you from inside. But RM has some of the most skilled pilots in the server too in their ranks.
It's a tough corner of the world to be. And some of the OPG and Brotherhood (you don't see TBH members in Rheinland) are very good pilots also. So you can see that Rheinland pirates (especially RHA) does get a LOT of mortal combat to hone their skills. Not to mention the recent influx of BH.
In fact one of the RM pilots said to me after I chatted with him after an engagement that we keep him in shape. He had been fighting easy fights against some of the losers that wander down from Liberty (this was a month or more so) and gotten too over-confident.
But where does this all lead? We try to have gentlemen's rules in Rheinland in not swamping the opposition with numbers.
I personally ask via PMs if I see a fellow RHA or Rheinland criminal in space and see that there's a good chance that he's fighting if he needs help. And so far NO-ONE has replyed by saying that "Join in the wtfpwn session. We outnumber them 3 to 1 so come quickly or you miss the kills!"
Usually the odds are already against them and they say: "Help!" or many times: "No thanks we can handle this." And I do not enter fights.
The same goes for RM. I've had many times talked with Herr Kruger (Gronath) before and after fights and he has dispatched a wing to investigate. Of course the odds always favor the RM in those cases, but he has also recalled an odd RM pilot who just logged in and saw the fight and went in making the odds impossible for me to win.
It's a little secret we have there. We fix the fights. And everyones happy. It's called taking into consideration of the other side also.
The biggest and greatest problem we have in Rheinland are the great unknowns. Bounty Hunters in caps. They can severely tip the odds. RM has tried to tell them NOT to engage in a pretty even furball saying to BHs that they can handle it. Sometimes the BH have evened the odds (like the fights we've had lately). In those fights usually the coordination has won the day.
I seriously suggest you try to integrate yourselves with the RM. They have a solid RP and they could use fresh blood in their ranks. I guarantee that if you join them you'll get enough fights to make you appreciate the RP. And in time the RM will weld together into a excellent fighting force.
About multifactioning: People want different views on the same issue. It makes things interesting. Suddenly the RP and fighting style your buddies employ in the faction is not so great as you thought they were when they come after you. Then you see a whole new perspective. It's also one of the greatest cures to desire to swamp the opponent if you see an already uneven fight.
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