Please note that t was also posted in the RP section of the forums, as my Crime Boss character. so it's not a LR Faction decree. It's a roleplay decree which means how you deal with it is entirely up to you.
mb52 yes please do it just to be an arse. I mean that will make things better won't it? Surely some mistake... I mean that was Akumabito's trick wasn't it?
Kurosora, spot on. Feel free to resupply there, take missions and whatever you need to do to set-up a character. Also feel free to RP with the Rogues who may be hanging around the station and we'll probably, you never know, RP with you.
It's not a definite decree from me as Faction Leader of the LR. It's an RP decree as Crime Boss Sylpheed of the Liberty Rogues.
It's all to do with logistics, King. Alcatraz hosts all of the LR's ships, which is a lot of ships, it simply doesn't have the resources or docking bays to deal with anymore. Rogues ain't rich and asteroid bases don't feed themselves. But like I said there are ways around it. And it's not all about cash, although we are Rogues and we do like cash.
Saint Del is considered a holy healer of diseases of children, but also as a protector of cattle.
As my Chief Arbiter character, I advise against parking caps at Junker bases in house space as well.
Unlike the LR, Congress and independents will enforce it without anyone being able to raise a stink. Junkers would gladly off a ship to maintain their quasi-legality and to serve as an example to the rest.
As Rudo the slacker Discovery player, do what you bloody like. Just keep the RP in mind that Junkers need to maintain the image of a salvage operation, and unlawful capital ships loitering in their space/using their bases as a home port is very, very bad for that. They'd take offense to it and will kill any ship without hesitation if it means maintaining their clearance to land on planets.
We recently had issue with some Corsairs using Trafalgar this way and it's getting hairy up there.
You may feel free to dock and resupply at Buffalo. However this is the base of operations for the Blood Wolves, with the knowledge and blessing of the crime boss. I can assure you that any cap ship found within the badlands will be encouraged to leave.
No seriously, I'm interested in what you guys could do to stop people from using that base. If you attack them, its the same situation as the Order stopping capships from invading Liberty.
And the admins stepped in and stopped the order from making laws like that.
If you attack any rogue/outcast/lanehacker who rightfully can dock according to cannon RP, you should be sanctioned, or else a double standard is formed.
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It's all to do with logistics, King. Alcatraz hosts all of the LR's ships, which is a lot of ships, it simply doesn't have the resources or docking bays to deal with anymore. Rogues ain't rich and asteroid bases don't feed themselves. But like I said there are ways around it. And it's not all about cash, although we are Rogues and we do like cash.
Well, would you allow me to do the same thing for Fairbanks station, it is a prison, not that much big for docking since most of it is... holding prisoners. Only =LSF= could dock on it and use it as a base of operation, Indies would be punished for using it as a BoO.
I agree for caps, but that thing is just pushing it a tad too far imo
' Wrote:No seriously, I'm interested in what you guys could do to stop people from using that base. If you attack them, its the same situation as the Order stopping capships from invading Liberty.
And the admins stepped in and stopped the order from making laws like that.
If you attack any rogue/outcast/lanehacker who rightfully can dock according to cannon RP, you should be sanctioned, or else a double standard is formed.
It's all about RP. The LR wouldn't just up and attack an allied cap vessel, but naturally things may degrade over asking them to vacate. No unreasonable individual would be closed to negotiation, and as Del said: there are means of getting around it.
Lord knows I want to pop a pile of Junker smugglers, the ones who blatantly fly contraband into Manhattan despite orders to stop, fly directly to Rochester with a tail of lawfuls and then asks me to help kill them all. I'm looking for an excuse with these types.
And there is roleplay justification for everything. It's all about finding the hole. And there is indeed a reasonable justification here.
' Wrote:It's all about RP. The LR wouldn't just up and attack an allied cap vessel, but naturally things may degrade over asking them to vacate. No unreasonable individual would be closed to negotiation, and as Del said: there are means of getting around it.
Lord knows I want to pop a pile of Junker smugglers, the ones who blatantly fly contraband into Manhattan despite orders to stop, fly directly to Rochester with a tail of lawfuls and then asks me to help kill them all. I'm tempted to create roleplay reasoning behind such nonsense.
And there is roleplay justification for everything. It's all about finding the hole.
Precedent says this cannot happen. The admins shut down the RP of the order, cause it went against "cannon" and it wasn't that far off this, the order wanted to stop order capships from invading liberty, its pretty similar to stopping ships from docking somewhere.
Iâll carry this flag
To the grave if I must
Because itâs flag that I love
And a flag that I trust
It's just a ruling made in RP guys.
GMG has a similar one, in RP we say "don't dock your capital class ships on our miners for an overnight stay, we have Aomari for that"
Majority of the RP'rs RP along with it. Naturally not everyone follows it, there are many who prefer to prioritize their convenience over RP and will dock on our miner with a BS and logout. In RP it's effectively taking up the one mooring that is needed for the tranports coming to reload.
When we come across those who do that we just shrug our shoulders, roll our eyes and have nothing further to do with that player and chances are that player will only have the powertraders and power pirates to interact with.
We continue on with our day and move on to our next encounter.
I am kind of confused about this. Does that mean had the Order people posted an rp thing asking other Order types not to invade Liberty, it would have been acceptable? Because I thought there were Hackers and Outcasts on Alcatrez (Or I might be confusing Montezuma, please correct me if I'm wrong)? If that is the case, isn't it canon for them to use it, as well as Rogues being based out of it?
I don't want to come across sounding the wrong way since I haven't had any problems with the LR or whatnot, but from reading a couple things and then this thread I'm confused about how that particular admin ruling applies.