I must say it is disturbing, some of the terms. I bring the following to your attention:
Quote:The Colonial Republic shall allow Kusari State Police and Naval Forces patrols to extend their area of operation to Tau-23 system.
You do NOT have the authority to give this right to the Kusari government. You do not even have a base in the system! I ask that you retract this from your treaty, and give them access to a system you do own, that would be preferred.
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The Colonial Republic hereby pledges to fight alongside the House of Kusari in it's conflict with the House of Bretonia and to assist Kusari vessels where required in the Taus, Kusari and Bretonia Space.
I would like to express how disappointed I am with this. We in the Tau's have always avoided conflict because we have enough enemies, and do not wish for war. This single act could turn our mining area into a war zone.
I'm sure you have thought this through very deeply, but I still am both disappointed and slightly upset.
I ask you to ask your pilots to read our Edict to make sure you do not break our rules.
Good day Colonials, keep your blades sharp and your weapons cocked, it seems you have enough enemies now to warrant it.
Quote:You do NOT have the authority to give this right to the Kusari government. You do not even have a base in the system! I ask that you retract this from your treaty, and give them access to a system you do own, that would be preferred.
So you claim taus as your area now? Though some time ago you were saying that those territorys dose not belong to anybody as I remember... maybe not you but your old guild master... but still you allow bretonians to hunt our civilians and our forces in taus without any limitations as I remember... And when we will met them in space, you always staying away, I think you made such an agreement dont you?
From that I can say that it was you have have bring another war into the taus. First outcasts now Bretonians..
Even the fact that the bretonians have some sort of the "backdoor" agreement with outcasts havnt cahange your mind, that makes me think about your..... "interests".
When you were writing this... Pact with bretonians... you havnt contact us or even try to say anything to us.
And I want to point you that one of our mens have tryed to contact your Guild Master but his attemts have been ignored its seems.
About the edict 63... We never did that before and will not do that. We respect some of the "rules" and we are not planing to pose risks to civilians, no matter to "whom they belong to" bretonian or not.
For years we have protected the IMG personel and assets.
And what did you do ?
Make a treathy with the Bretonians without consulting us.
And to make it even worse you have Abandoned the tau's almost completly!
There is not a single IMG ship left in the Tau's to protect you assets!
We are fighting these Outcasts everyday ...
And all you do is think of your wallets and leave us to do your dirty work!
And as Commander Andrew Fletcher pointed out.
Every IMG personel that everworkd in the Tau's have claimd.
No one has the right to claim the Tau's as their space.
And to go as low to point out we don't have a Base in that Area is just low...
We have no need for a base in current time's seeing we where given the right to use your base.
For our operations against the Outcasts.
And now after all the work we have done while you have been sitting on your high horse
And filling your wallets with mining outside the Tau's you dare to qeustion us!
We have respected your rules .
We have lost Colonials defending your stations and ships.
And this is how you repay us?
You are the one who made us face the Bretonians alone.
You are the one who let's us do your dirty work.
And now we find someone to assist us in our efforts to keep the Tau's a safe place.
And now you claim we have no authority to give them acces?
Im sorry but you make me laugh!
If we don't have the authority ...
You don't either..
Wich conclude's you have no rights to object to any of our make statements..
Good day
Commander James Fossil
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[ID: Research, Development, Mining and Trading Director Syana Kyan]
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[Location: IMG R&D Command ship Trailblazer.]
*Sighs* Men.
I shall respond to each of your points in turn.
Quote:So you claim taus as your area now? Though some time ago you were saying that those territorys dose not belong to anybody as I remember... maybe not you but your old guild master... but still you allow bretonians to hunt our civilians and our forces in taus without any limitations as I remember
No, I did not say that that the Tau's were ours. I was saying that they were not yours. I also never said that Tau's as a whole. I mentioned one specific system, a system you, nor we, have control over. The tone of your "treaty" seems to take control over a system you have no control over.
Also, we do NOT allow the Bretonians to hunt your Civilians. Our edict restricts every warship from that base. We do not care about your squabbles, all we want is for you to take them away from our bases.
Quote:And when we will met them in space, you always staying away, I think you made such an agreement dont you?
As I said, your petty squabbles are not our business.
Quote:From that I can say that it was you have have bring another war into the taus. First outcasts now Bretonians..
Even the fact that the bretonians have some sort of the "backdoor" agreement with outcasts havnt cahange your mind, that makes me think about your..... "interests".
I know spacerats with better logic than you, and they allowed you on to the colonials government? Who did you murder? Anyway, we have brought NO wars to the Taus. When you can provide one piece of evidence that we started a war, you can talk. Until then, the primary fighters in our area are you. The Outcasts are OUR enemy aswell remember.
I know nothing about the Bretonians and their agreements, but we stay on good terms with them for one reason and one reason only: Our main mining area is around their house. If we could no longer fly through Bretonia with our transports, or if we were ejected from Dublin, a lot of our kin would lose their livelihoods.
Quote:About the edict 63... We never did that before and will not do that. We respect some of the "rules" and we are not planing to pose risks to civilians, no matter to "whom they belong to" bretonian or not.
Are you smoking Cardamine? Seriously, you are making less and less sense. I strongly suggest you respect our request for you to NOT land on Java base, or our fragile relationship may descend further than it has already dropped.
Our citizens are not Bretonian you fool. Look at my transmission details, I belong to the IMG, not the Bretonians. If you feel they are a "risk" to you, go and fight them. Oh wait, you are. You WILL NOT land on the bases we have told you not to land on. Go and read the Edict again.
Next please.
Quote:For years we have protected the IMG personel and assets.
And what did you do ?
Make a treathy with the Bretonians without consulting us.
And to make it even worse you have Abandoned the tau's almost completly!
There is not a single IMG ship left in the Tau's to protect you assets!
We are fighting these Outcasts everyday ...
And all you do is think of your wallets and leave us to do your dirty work!
Very well, I shall explain.
You NEVER protected our assets. You protected us when it benefited you, do not try and make it seem like you were our protectors.
Also, we never made a threathy with the Bretonians. We didn't even make a Treaty. All we did was pss some simple agreements that benefited us both, see my response to the last government member.
Next, we have not abandoned the Tau's. Our miners are at work every day, our defence squadrons make hourly patrols and our fleet stands in the shadows, ready to move forward if the need requires it. If you wish to fight the Outcasts every day, that is not my business. We fight the Outcasts if they threaten us, we don't go out looking for fights.
Quote:And as Commander Andrew Fletcher pointed out.
Every IMG personel that everworkd in the Tau's have claimd.
No one has the right to claim the Tau's as their space.
And to go as low to point out we don't have a Base in that Area is just low...
We have no need for a base in current time's seeing we where given the right to use your base.
For our operations against the Outcasts.
And now after all the work we have done while you have been sitting on your high horse
And filling your wallets with mining outside the Tau's you dare to qeustion us!
True, noone does have the right to claim the Tau's as their space. Funny thing is, noone has claimed them. Oh wait, you did, and even then you only claimed one system. And myself pointing out you have no base there is not "low", it is a fact. Pick up a dictionary you illiterate fool.
You have not been allowed to use Java station for some time now, something your leaders AGREED to when we proposed it.
Yes, I dare to question you, for you have done little to no work for us.
Quote:We have respected your rules .
We have lost Colonials defending your stations and ships.
And this is how you repay us?
You have respected our rules?
Quote:About the edict 63... We never did that before and will not do that.
That's a lie. You have lost Colonials only when Colonials still lived on our stations, but since most have you have now left, you no longer do so it seems.
And how do we repay you? Oh yes, we have nothing to repay as far as I see. What do you do? Increase the battles in the systems we mine in, making it harder for us honest miners to make a living.
Quote:You are the one who made us face the Bretonians alone.
You are the one who let's us do your dirty work.
And now we find someone to assist us in our efforts to keep the Tau's a safe place.
And now you claim we have no authority to give them acces?
We did not make you face the Bretonians alone, you decided to wage that senseless and slightly pathetic conflict, and we don't want anything to do with it. We don't make you do any of our "dirty work". Where does it say you have to help us? Nowhere. Whatever you do you do out of choice.
Keep the Tau's a safe place? Ha! Your logic is as flawed as the last dude. I know, let's bring people into the Tau's who hate people already there. Yes, that will completely reduce the fighting and make life easier for us all... or perhaps not. No, you do not have that authority, don't start thinking you do.
Quote:Im sorry but you make me laugh!
And I laugh at your pathetic excuse for an argument.
Quote:If we don't have the authority ...
You don't either..
Wich conclude's you have no rights to object to any of our make statements..
If you had just stuck with those first 2 sentences, you might have made a valid point amongst all that utter tosh. We do not have the authority to bring people into the Taus. So yes, neither of us does, except that you just did.
And your final statement, if we invited the Bretonians into Tau 29, would you object? Of course you would. Get off your high horse, which is itself terribly low.
Good day, and when you come up with someone who has an IQ higher than room temperature, please send them towards this transmission to represent you.
Quote: Until then, the primary fighters in our area are you. The Outcasts are OUR enemy aswell remember.
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I know nothing about the Bretonians and their agreements, but we stay on good terms with them for one reason and one reason only: Our main mining area is around their house.
We will see how you will mine stuff without "primary fighters" cover. I have already gave the order to my wing to not assist any IMG vessels until offical request of the president of Colonial Republic.
Quote:I strongly suggest you respect our request for you to NOT land on Java base
I dont know who put you as the head of the "Research, Development, Mining and Trading" thing... Seems that you are complitly lost... Your guild master gave us rights to dock on IMG bases.
Quote:Keep the Tau's a safe place? Ha! Your logic is as flawed as the last dude. I know, let's bring people into the Tau's who hate people already there. Yes, that will completely reduce the fighting and make life easier for us all... or perhaps not. No, you do not have that authority, don't start thinking you do.
However you have "bring" Bretonians to the taus and even "allow" bretonians to hunt vessels belong to the Colonial Republic and as it writed down in the edict you wold not stop them from doing that, but as you said before, we dont have authority to claim taus as our territory so dont you, but still you allowed them to patrol taus and gave a green light for their military operations there.
Quote:Good day, and when you come up with someone who has an IQ higher than room temperature, please send them towards this transmission to represent you.
I am starting to think that you are in the iceroom... Since your IQ seems like falling down to the minus.
So... well.. yeah.. still next time.
It seems the only thing you can do is trow insults on Diplomatic channels.
If you willing to go that low is your own choice we will not meet you at that level.
It seems we have no broken one rule's your GuildMaster set upon our docking rights.
In wich case you have no rights to revoke them.
Quote:I hereby reinstate Colonial Remnant docking rights as per Edict 63, with the proviso that our bases will not be used as a base to launch hostile activities that may affect the relationship between the IMG and other parties. Hopefully this is as agreeable to you as it is to us
In wich case you have no rights to revoke them seeing you aint the GuildMaster.
Then come's the fact's:
1. We don't launch any attacks From your bases that might put your Diplomatic Relations at risk.
2. We are already Hostile with the Bretonian goverment.
How would our treathy with the Kusari goverment be any treath to your Status with the Bretonian goverment?
3. We have not given them acces to any of your base's.
4. We have not make it so that the Kusari see us as rightfull owners of the Tau Systems.
So i fail to see why this treathy would concern you.
As the fact remains no Ships and Bases or even Diplomatic relations of the IMG is put in any danger by this treathy.
Sincerly.
Commander James Fossil.
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[ID: Research, Development, Mining and Trading Director Syana Kyan]
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[Location: IMG R&D Command ship Trailblazer.]
Again, I shall deal with each of you in turn.
Quote:The Miners' Reacting boundraries with hypocrisy and it is not the first time. Tau 23 is being defended round-the-clock, not just occasionally.
My and my Peoples' patience is limited, guildmaster. Play along or get the short end of the stick.
Angelos out.
And as post-scriptum... I'd suggest using larger-sized fonts in your messages, guildmaster. It just makes the reading more annoying.
I am not the guildmaster. And also, the person who stops talking and reverts to threats is the person without the intelligence to truly respond.
Quote:We will see how you will mine stuff without "primary fighters" cover. I have already gave the order to my wing to not assist any IMG vessels until offical request of the president of Colonial Republic.
We will mine fine, thank you.
Quote:I dont know who put you as the head of the "Research, Development, Mining and Trading" thing... Seems that you are complitly lost... Your guild master gave us rights to dock on IMG bases.
Said guildmaster did. Also, check the edict. Is your name on that list of approved factions? No.
Quote:However you have "bring" Bretonians to the taus and even "allow" bretonians to hunt vessels belong to the Colonial Republic and as it writed down in the edict you wold not stop them from doing that, but as you said before, we dont have authority to claim taus as our territory so dont you, but still you allowed them to patrol taus and gave a green light for their military operations there.
How have we brought Bretonians here!? We do NOT allow Bretonian warships on our bases, and we do NOT support them. We also do not stop YOU from fighting Bretonians, do we? We allowed them to patrol the taus and gave them a green light for military operations? Where do you find this utter crap? Stop making things up.
Quote:I am starting to think that you are in the iceroom... Since your IQ seems like falling down to the minus.
So... well.. yeah.. still next time.
Sadly, you have yet to make a valid point, so I'm going to ignore this one aswell.
Quote: It seems the only thing you can do is trow insults on Diplomatic channels.
If you willing to go that low is your own choice we will not meet you at that level.
And here is some nice reading for you to do.
Agreement with IMG
It seems we have no broken one rule's your GuildMaster set upon our docking rights.
In wich case you have no rights to revoke them.
I throw insults along with the responses to your points, it's good fun.
"I hereby reinstate Colonial Remnant docking rights as per Edict 63, with the proviso that our bases will not be used as a base to launch hostile activities that may affect the relationship between the IMG and other parties. Hopefully this is as agreeable to you as it is to us"
True, yet if you look at Edict 63, magically enough, the Colonial Remnant is NOT on that list.
Quote:1. We don't launch any attacks From your bases that might put your Diplomatic Relations at risk.
2. We are already Hostile with the Bretonian goverment.
How would our treathy with the Kusari goverment be any treath to your Status with the Bretonian goverment?
3. We have not given them acces to any of your base's.
4. We have not make it so that the Kusari see us as rightfull owners of the Tau Systems.
So i fail to see why this treathy would concern you.
As the fact remains no Ships and Bases or even Diplomatic relations of the IMG is put in any danger by this treathy.
FINALLY! Good points!
1. That is very nice to hear, thank you.
2. It is not, we don't care. The only thing I said considering that point was that it would turn Tau 23 into a war zone, it was not a demand, it was me expressing my displeasure. The main thing I started this about was the fact you invited the Kusarians into Tau 23. We have not invited the Bretonians there, trust me.
3. Good.
4. What's the difference between them owning it and killing their enemies in it? Not much.
True, no diplomatic relations are damaged, I never said they did, you lot came up with that (Serves you right for putting words in my mouth). However, stray fire from Kusari vessels in Tau 31 has badly damaged Holman outpost, we fear the same might happen in Tau 23 if the war moves to there.
Please, enough of this hostility, I was concerned about one point, please, let us focus upon said point and ignore any more foolish arguments.
Quote:True, yet if you look at Edict 63, magically enough, the Colonial Remnant is NOT on that list.
Thats weird don't you think.
You ask us an explanation and wow the Edict 63 has suddenly changed.
Well that aside the magical things you can do with official documents....
Your GuildMaster gave us the rights and you who are 100% sure not the Guild Master.
Refuse us that rights because some magical thing happend and the Paper work and Edict 63 changed.
If you where loyal to your Guild Master you would be so kind to update the Document to include the CR.
But seeing you did not it seems you are working on your own and not out of the will of the Guild Master...
Wich make's me wonder did the Bretonians Bribe you?
But as you said back to the point that counts? wich is again?
The edict 63 wich magicly changed without your Guild Masters knowing of it?
Or the fact that you cannot find peace with us making a treathy between us and the Kusari Goverment?
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[ID: Research, Development, Mining and Trading Director Syana Kyan]
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[Location: IMG R&D Command ship Trailblazer.]
The Edict has not changed for weeks. The Guildmaster in question then ((Niezck)) has since been forcibly ejected from his position ((He's banned)). Thus everything he said has to have been checked by us now. Our current Guildmaster is currently too busy to deal with this, and has entrusted myself to it.
Quote:But as you said back to the point that counts? wich is again?
The edict 63 wich magicly changed without your Guild Masters knowing of it?
Or the fact that you cannot find peace with us making a treathy between us and the Kusari Goverment?
The point that counts is you inviting the Kusari into Tau 23.
Edict 23 has not changed for weeks.
I don't care about your treaty, you can be allies to whoever you wish. What I care about is you turning our main home into a war zone.
Now, how's this for a deal? Change your "treaty" and allow Kusari into Tau 44 instead of Tau 23, and in return, I shall have you added to Edict 23.