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n00bl3t · 08-12-2009, 02:17 PM,

' Wrote:Noobl3t, learn to seperate yourself from your characters.

I already know how to do that.

I am unsure how you want me to justify that I do to you, apart from what I foresee as a "STFU" on the Zoner issue. (Since this does affect my Zoner character.)

' Wrote:For Zoner's to actually declare war on a House they may find a certain ally of Bretonia taking an interest... (Just a potential RP idea there)

Actually, not bad.

Full-scale Sirius war.

Rheinland and Bretonia verse Kusari and Liberty.

(I may be interpreting this incorrectly, in which case I should go eat some tuna.)

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

08-12-2009, 02:20 PM,

' Wrote:Who is we?

I can suggest whatever I want. On that note, Zoners own New London. (No worse than the role-playing, not power-gaming, that we have seen today.)

We being the Outcasts.

As for Benjamin's comment. We have to view it from a point near our characters. If we don't then we'd just have people on one side, in which case, this would go no where. Nooblet views it from him being a Zoner and I view it from me being a Outcast.

Dra1003 · 08-12-2009, 02:21 PM,

just settle this in RP or make a private skype channel or something shesh...

Epic drama.

All that has happened is in role play in my eyes.

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n00bl3t · 08-12-2009, 02:22 PM,

' Wrote:We being the Outcasts.

As for Benjamin's comment. We have to view it from a point near our characters. If we don't then we'd just have people on one side, in which case, this would go no where. Nooblet views it from him being a Zoner and I view it from me being a Outcast.

The OC's get supplies from us too? XD.

I fail to see how the OC's are involved, but eh.

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

08-12-2009, 02:29 PM,

' Wrote:The OC's get supplies from us too? XD.

I fail to see how the OC's are involved, but eh.

Nope, we get our supplies from the Junkers on Yanagi. We probably get a few bits and bobs actually, but our main supplier are the Junkers.

And the Outcasts became involved because I was making a point that Outcast/Slavers/Cardamine smugglers have bounties on their heads (As does near enough everyone else for that matter), so we (Not me, we being the fore mentioned O/S/CS) replied in kind.

Edit: Wow, my typing is bad today.

Spear · 08-12-2009, 02:30 PM,

' Wrote:Actually, not bad.

Full-scale Sirius war.

Rheinland and Bretonia verse Kusari and Liberty.

(I may be interpreting this incorrectly, in which case I should go eat some tuna.)

Tuna time :D

In fact I was alluding to the old Liberty/Bretonia alliance and our good relations so it would be Rhienland & Kusari versus Liberty & Bretonia if it was a Sirus wide quadrant war!

However my main implication was if Zoner's declared war on Bretonia, Zoner's may perhaps find themselves unwelcome in Liberty and perhaps even military aid from Liberty, obviously up to the LN but has some great RP potential to kick of a quadrant wide war. Again just an idea and I think any large war should be time limited so the server does not descend into PEW PEW madness.

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swift · (This post was last modified: 08-12-2009, 02:33 PM by swift.)

First of all, to the one who was implying Liberty helping against Zoners, that would not really happen.
Liberty is more than busy enough with Rheinland, which is precisely the reason why I believe that war started, so the Kusari - Bretonia one would stay balanced.

And I can say with safety that if the Zoners would go to all out war with Bretonia, it would not bode that well for Bretonia, because that'd mean they'd have to move forces from the Kusari and Colonial Remnant fronts, which'd in turn make them lose more ground.

How would anyone, even a house, defend from Kusari, Colonial Remnant, Zoners and Corsairs? No way, that's how.

Bretonia knows this and that is why it wishes not to shun away the QCP completely, because they help with Kusari, but cannot acknowledge them publically because then the Zoners would get pissed off beyond measure.
So Bretonia's doing a dishonorable thing, but one that makes sense in RP, and I don't blame them.

I don't blame the Zoners either.
And I don't blame the QCP either, if they want to make political suicide and act like their brain circuits are fried, who am I to stop them?

Everything can be RPed out, and while I am really on the Zoners' side, I don't find any side too much on the 'wrong' here.

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Benjamin · 08-12-2009, 02:34 PM,

Not like CR or Zoners are really that much of a deal, and Corsairs are nothing compared to Kusari....
Don't start thinking a guard system and a full shipline puts you even remotely close to the RP power of houses.

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n00bl3t · 08-12-2009, 02:34 PM,

' Wrote:Tuna time :D

In fact I was alluding to the old Liberty/Bretonia alliance and our good relations so it would be Rhienland & Kusari versus Liberty & Bretonia if it was a Sirus wide quadrant war!

However my main implication was if Zoner's declared war on Bretonia, Zoner's may perhaps find themselves unwelcome in Liberty and perhaps even military aid from Liberty, obviously up to the LN but has some great RP potential to kick of a quadrant wide war. Again just an idea and I think any large war should be time limited so the server does not descend into PEW PEW madness.

Typing error.

That is what I meant. XD. (Bretonia and Liberty verse Rheinland and Kusari.)

Oh well, tuna is not so bad.:D

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

swift · 08-12-2009, 02:43 PM,

' Wrote:Not like CR or Zoners are really that much of a deal, and Corsairs are nothing compared to Kusari....
Don't start thinking a guard system and a full shipline puts you even remotely close to the RP power of houses.

The Colonial Remnant doesn't have a guard system.

And anyways, let's go.
First, the Zoners are actually quite powerful. During the hundreds of years ( I think ) they've been in existance, they've gotten incredibly rich due to being the most switzerlandey faction around here.
They've practically been able to supply all sides of all wars, making them a legal weapons dealer and trader's dream.
They also have a sizeable fleet of warships, both in-RP, which is most important, and in reality.

As for the Colonial Remnant, no, it's power cannot rival that of Bretonia were it alone.
But it does have a military, and a sizeable one for a nation of it's stature.
If it actually went and opened a second front for Bretonia, that'd prove very bad for them, as all their forces are struggling immensely against Kusari.

And one last point, which needs to be made.
I do not believe in the all-power of RP, in the following sense, before you interpret this incorrectly as you always do.
You cannot never appear in the game and state how it's in your RP that you are awesome and your faction is the most powerful one in Sirius.
Roleplay needs to be supported by actual activity in the game, because if it has no impact, why am I here?

Lastly, *insert sarcastic jab here*.

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