Enough nerfing - give us back some decent ships

[Dashiell]

The BHBS is already more powerfull then the Osiris, and you want to give it more power? That would mean they would have to up the Order ships to.

no it`s not. that`s what this whole topic is about.

and stop saying that we want "the best uberpwnzor" caps. take your overpowered caps and shove em. we don`t want em. that`s no fun. we want equally good caps. there`s a difference

As far as I'm concerned, the only buffs the BHG ships need right now is a fixed hitbox or new model for the mako, but keep in mind it's still going to be larger than the osiris - it isnt a light battleship.

if it isn`t a light bs according to you, why does it have a cardboard hull and the smallest BS powerplant of the game? why does everyone call it a light bs? they don`t come much lighter than a Mako mate.

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[globalplayer-svk]

Whoever it was that said any cruiser can take on the BHBC... you're an idiot. The BHBC has more armor, more forward firing guns, and twice the power core of just about any cruiser in the mod.

Any cruiser pilot that takes out a battlecruiser 1v1 is either godly, or is fighting an absolutely terrible BC pilot. The only exception I can think of would be the kusari destroyer, but everyone knows that thing is overpowered anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, the only buffs the BHG ships need right now is a fixed hitbox or new model for the mako, but keep in mind it's still going to be larger than the osiris - it isnt a light battleship.

tena, you forgot one important, thing...
loadout.

bs with all primary guns can never hit small and agile gunship for example..(i tested it)
the same battlecruiser full of anti bs loadout can have big troubles with smaller and more agile cruiser that is staying in distance

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[Tic]

Whoever it was that said any cruiser can take on the BHBC... you're an idiot. The BHBC has more armor, more forward firing guns, and twice the power core of just about any cruiser in the mod.

Any cruiser pilot that takes out a battlecruiser 1v1 is either godly, or is fighting an absolutely terrible BC pilot. The only exception I can think of would be the kusari destroyer, but everyone knows that thing is overpowered anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, the only buffs the BHG ships need right now is a fixed hitbox or new model for the mako, but keep in mind it's still going to be larger than the osiris - it isnt a light battleship.

No Tena my man, any cruiser can take out the BHBC as long as the pilot has the brain. If you can't take it out, i'm sorry to inform you, but you don't have a brain, or you suck at flying caps to great extent. Just because a ship has more armor and forward firing guns, doesn't mean it can't be beaten. What you failed to mention is that BHBC also has twice worse agility then pretty much any cruiser, so all you have to do is get behind it, where only 3 turrets can fire properly.

And your "It isn't a light battleship." comment is pretty much bull****, because currenly there are only 2 BSs in existance that are lighter then the Mako, and one of them is unique and there is only one on the server, while the other has a working hitbox.

[NonSequitor]

As far as I'm concerned, the only buffs the BHG ships need right now is a fixed hitbox or new model for the mako, but keep in mind it's still going to be larger than the osiris - it isnt a light battleship.

Yes, the Mako is a light BS, if power output is any indicator. It has the same power output as the Osiris and the Zoner Aquilon - 7 million.

[Red_Bull]

no it`s not. that`s what this whole topic is about.

and stop saying that we want "the best uberpwnzor" caps. take your overpowered caps and shove em. we don`t want em. that`s no fun. we want equally good caps. there`s a difference
if it isn`t a light bs according to you, why does it have a cardboard hull and the smallest BS powerplant of the game? why does everyone call it a light bs? they don`t come much lighter than a Mako mate.

So your telling me the BHBS doesn't have more guns and armor then the Osiris?...

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[Tic]

Osiris:
Armor 700 000 - Better
Size 1 - Better
Turning 1 - Better
Guns 12 - Worse


BHBS:
Armor 620 000 - Worse
Size 1.25/model 1.5/hitbox - Worse
Turning 0.9 - Worse
Guns 14 - Better

[Red_Bull]

Wtf? I swear the BHBS had more armor, well I agree then that is messed up.

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[Tic]

Actually if you count the current hitbox BHBS uses, it is 1.5 of the Osirses size..

[Dusty Lens]

The tone of this thread compels me inform the lot of you that the next off color attack towards an individual as opposed to reasoned discussion will result in this thread being locked and the conversation aborted.

I hope I have made myself clear.

-DL

[El Nino]

Osiris:
Armor 700 000 - Better
Size 1 - Better
Turning 1 - Better
Guns 12 - Worse
BHBS:
Armor 620 000 - Worse
Size 1.25/model 1.5/hitbox - Worse
Turning 0.9 - Worse
Guns 14 - Better

You can go through all the stats all day long.. but in actual tests it proved balanced..... considering how much guns it has... it is just about perfect for killing an osiris...

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