"Just an interjection of thought. Miss Silvan was the wife of the late Mister Silvan, who had died and thus became the dissolution of this Asgard Warriors. Easily confused as the most we see of our pilots are the hulls of their ships, or a voice over the communication channels. Though I'd merely state that the Council of Zoners allows change from within, and that if people would participate, they would have a more direct ability to affect ordeals they are so eager to grow agitated about. I suppose I speak in a mildly neutral standing as I am a delegate of the Council and find the position rewarding for information, and rewarding for my ability to provide input on issues and my most important ability, the vote I may cast when decisions are to be made."
"I suppose you might condemn my person merely on the grounds of my affiliations, though foremost I am a Guard Captain and pilot for the Zoners, nothing will dictate my stance on my station as an enforcer of peace and protectorate of Zoners when they need me. In finality, I urge you consider to change things from within, where your voice will have a more direct impact, and ordeals can be sorted directly."
/Closing transmitter.
My honest reaction upon reading the forums, whenever I rarely do. Joe Kucan, he's the man.
Personally I dont see how it matters what we call our governing body, the fact is that we zoners are as close to pure anarchy as you can find in a body of people that doesnt degenerate into utter stupidity (liberty aside). What we call our goverment is irrelvent, replacing a goverment one way or another doesnt even matter. Our people will still for the most part do what they want to do. What is key however is having a body that actualy DOES speak for the people. If such body ceases to speak for the people, the people find a new body to speak for them.
From you respons it is obvious that you treat CoZ as a loose organization and it's chambers as an open forum. That is what this "I think the council should consist of anyone that feels like showing up" part of your statement implies.
I have to remind you that CoZ channel is fully encrypted and operational as any official faction channel. I was denied access to it, even though I'm known Zoner.
In conclusion: This para-institution that has unknown number of members claims to be representing large group of independent Zoners even though there isn't a single evidence showing that it enjoys their support?!
I want to see that independent Zoners are properly represented and I want to be persuaded that Council of Zoners still deserves that name, name it inherited from an massive and much more respected organization, now long gone.
I demand a roll call!
If I'm proven that at least 20% of known and active Zoners support this Council and Mrs. Silvan (I used to address her as "Miss" I didn't know she is a widow, I apologize for that) I'll respect each decision it makes, regardless to my ZTC membership. I can promise that much.
Mr. Top,
based on the uncalled-for rudeness in your elaborate and somewhat shallow response it is obvious that you do not understand the purpose of this message. It is not about the Union of Non-affiliated Zoners, it is about so-called Council of Zoners and it's lack of legitimacy to inherit the name and position of the old Council. That one had huge registered membership, this one has had unknown membership and from what I saw in the diplomatic channel it's only active member is Mrs. Silvan. Because of that I'm turning this message into
PETITION for renaming of the CoZ and it's membership roll call and update!
Do I smell a potential war starting? MMMMMM! I love wars! Please let us neighbors to Baffin know if you decide to start a Coup! We can provide weapons, soldiers, and even bomber support whenever needed!
Then again...if you decide to go the...what's the word...diplomatic route, I suppose I could arrange for some catering to your discussions. I would much prefer a war though. Just let us know.
[font=Book Antiqua]Jacob Keller Commander of the Children of Conviction
[color=white]While I don't know Ms. Sulivan very well, I have however seen her exploits. Especially at the hands of hundreds of lives when she decided NOT to step down in the face of hundreds of deaths. If you indeed start a new council, I may be persuaded to join. Please let us know.
Julianne Gabriel Commander of the Jinkusu Juggernaut,Tyche
[Transmission Terminated]
Why are you reading this? Don't you have something else you'd rather be doing? Why are you still reading this? Go out and explore, trade, fight, pirate, or even die thanks to SLRC autopilot. You're still here? What do you want, a poem? Fine. Roses are red, violets are blue, I lose the game, and so did you.
I am aware that the current council is a closed block. The open forum is what I hope to see replace it.
Prehaps, in interst of stability, have the 'openness' limited to a roll call at the end of every month, at which point any Zoner captain not currently in the body may report in indicating that she wishes to participate
OOC: What I put above is what I myself thing is best, it also fits the characthers line of thinking. Each player should also only get one vote no matter how many zoner characters he has. Posting 2nd zoner characthers opinions below.
Incoming Transmission:
Speaker: Captain Paul E. Tibbets
Adress: Zoner Escort Gunboat Enola Gay
Location: Bethlehem Station
I say its time humanity does a democracy RIGHT for a change. Lets have a direct democracy... with a Zoner twist.
We ellect a head of state. I dont give 'ah damn what tittle we give the guy. His job is to speak for us. If we think he ISNT speaking for us, we petition for a recall. If Forty Percent of us vote for a recall, he's fired and we find a new bum to speak for us. He dont get out when we fire his arse ? We drop the big one on em.
Past that, i say we have a council of sorts to come to decisions. The head of state should come from the council.
I think the council should be setup somewere along these lines.......
Every five ships gets a seat in the council. For groups like the TAZ that have enough ships to warrant more than one seat, they handle how they do it internaly, they can have multiple reps, and how the groups total votes are distributed are up to them. For indies, they can back a group giving it more votes, or they can band together and pick a captain to be their voice in the council. so say you get five indies that run together, and they all support one of their number repping them, then that guy is a council member all of a sudden. Same for larger groups, but instead its a case of 'if you dont like the way your group votes, leave it or stop crying'
The head of state makes immediate decisions on how to act, pending the councils vote. Council disagrees, decision is over turned.
Transmission; Start
Identification: Commodore Christina Robinson
Location: Virginia system, San Jacinto station
Regarding this 'political upheaval';
The house of Liberty hopes that the treaty of Bethlehem will be honoured regardless of this struggle between the sub-factions within the Zoners. The agreement recieved signatures far before any of this strife made itself known publically, thus we expect the continuing commitment of those who call themselves Zoners to it.
I care about the Zoners, which is why I'm issuing this friendly reminder.
[Incoming Transmission]
[To: Zoners with access to this Channel]
[From: ???, Head of the Alster Union]
[Location: Leipheim base, Munich]
[Subject: Treaty of Bethlehem]
Guten tag,
I represent the interest of the Unioners and while I understand that I do not have a single word to say in all of this, the Council of Zoner's treaty of Bethlehem is a menace to many of the men I have under my command. I also udnerstand that this Treaty was imposed to the Zoners by the Council, something that worries me some. Weren't the Unioners loyal guardians of the Freeport? Weren't the Zoners supposed to be against all form of violence, no matter who you are? Sure, we had a skirmish or two with the Xenos around the Freeport 2, but business is business... eh, anyway, I'm drifiting away from the Subject.
From: Commander Sebastien LaHoue of the Freeport 18
To: Zoners
Look at you talking about other Zoners! Tearing ourselves apart, ruining our reputation, that is what you're doing! While the Council has extreme measures in it's way to lead, their decisions are far to be forced on all of us. Zoners who aren't chairmen of the Council shouldn't and are not forced to follow Miss Silvan if so they choose. The CoZ is only one of the many Zoners associations we have, and it happens to be the biggest and the most influent. They are ready to lick the boots of the Houses to get credits from them, and this is a subject that worries me more than the leadership of it.
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