The Colonial Republic Feedback Thread

[swift]

All I am saying, mate, is that keeping calm is the first thing you should do in this thread.

Secondly, I am not about what happened during your stay in Kyushu, but why you even went there in the first place when you shouldn't have been there. Nothing more, at least for the time being.

Anyways, as was concluded a bit earlier, this is best put off until tomorrow when everyone's head is clear and the information pool is filled.

We have entertained Disco enough, have we not?

*does the 'move along people, nothing to see here' line*

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[Chenzo-]

There were no CR transports in Kusari, and the Outcast dessie in question cant pirate your transports anyway. This was simply a matter of the CR looking for a fight.

you truly are ill informed.

Kaze arrived late anyway, so maybe is just trying to peice together the information recieved and given a bad opinion ion here.
no matter how you look at it.

we were NOT there for a fight we were RPing for about half a hour i recall with GC with no gunfire..

the introducing of the Kusari lawfulls and engageing immedeatly was what sparked everything off.

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[ProwlerPC]

LMAO, at least Chenzo doesn't reflect on CR but he certainly knows how to make things get repeated. ok lets see.........

hmm.. you may all forgive any reason to hot-head'd hostilaty here...
Swift seems to think i am angry?

and the only person i would be peev'd at during this moment in time is himself.
reguardless of any diss-agrements we have here

the RP with the BD, GC, OC, and all of that before the Kusari lawfulls decided to come and engage, was purly Brilliant, and rather enjoyfull... untill again, the Kusari lawfulls came in with hammer's.

Reguardless, if people want to go against what i have said and done in my Truthfull post's, you clearly enjoy lieing, or just simply missread/saw the situation at hand.

either way, we are here to have fun, lets not stab eachother now, eh ?

Ok let's look at those "truthfull" posts

POPPYC**K
at No point did you ask anyone to leave, it was just " where is this happening" few mins later finding it. then "ENGAGE LIKE A LOLWUT !"

you truly are ill informed.

Kaze arrived late anyway, so maybe is just trying to peice together the information recieved and given a bad opinion ion here.
no matter how you look at it.

we were NOT there for a fight we were RPing for about half a hour i recall with GC with no gunfire..

the introducing of the Kusari lawfulls and engageing immedeatly was what sparked everything off.

That's funny because you only have your words backing it up when the Kusari Lawfuls submitted this evidence:






Those screenshots clearly show that:

POPPYC**K
at No point did you ask anyone to leave, it was just " where is this happening" few mins later finding it. then "ENGAGE LIKE A LOLWUT !"

you truly are ill informed.

Kaze arrived late anyway, so maybe is just trying to peice together the information recieved and given a bad opinion ion here.
no matter how you look at it.

we were NOT there for a fight we were RPing for about half a hour i recall with GC with no gunfire..

the introducing of the Kusari lawfulls and engageing immedeatly was what sparked everything off.

Are lies. Please allow CR to handle this matter, you are ill equipped for this.

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[kuth]

I won't comment on the latest attacks by CR in Kusari. I am commenting on the fact that a Kusari destroyed attacked a wing of CR unprovoked. The thing that started this whole mess.

To be blunt and honest. Both sides. Panzer and Zelot acted poorly. Zelot treated an ally like a underling, not something the Emperor would have done. Claim he would all you want, that is you not taking a step back and actually thinking about how he would have acted and trying to validate your poor decision. Panzer probably acted worse out of the two in my opinion by letting personal problems interfere with RP.

To be even more blunt, this is power gaming at its finest. Two individuals forced their RP on other people. Zelot forced his RP on all Kusari factions without speaking to them about it. Panzer forced RP on his people without asking.

As for the fallout of what happened.....no reason to comment, its a mess started by a mess. Only thing that can happen now is to follow it through and see what happens.

My two cents. Agree or disagree but both players acting as leaders acted poorly and didn't RP their roles properly. Both of you.

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[Zelot]

I won't comment on the latest attacks by CR in Kusari. I am commenting on the fact that a Kusari destroyed attacked a wing of CR unprovoked. The thing that started this whole mess.

To be blunt and honest. Both sides. Panzer and Zelot acted poorly. Zelot treated an ally like a underling, not something the Emperor would have done. Claim he would all you want, that is you not taking a step back and actually thinking about how he would have acted and trying to validate your poor decision. Panzer probably acted worse out of the two in my opinion by letting personal problems interfere with RP.

To be even more blunt, this is power gaming at its finest. Two individuals forced their RP on other people. Zelot forced his RP on all Kusari factions without speaking to them about it. Panzer forced RP on his people without asking.

As for the fallout of what happened.....no reason to comment, its a mess started by a mess. Only thing that can happen now is to follow it through and see what happens.

My two cents. Agree or disagree but both players acting as leaders acted poorly and didn't RP their roles properly. Both of you.

I think you shouldn't talk about what you dont know about. In this thread you will find posts by the leadership of the KNF (although not Lotek), Hogosha, Kishiro and Samura. We in Kusari have a group called the Council of the Rising Suns, it is made up of the leadership of the KNF, KSP, AFA, Hogosha, Kishiro, Samura and the Kempati. None of the posts I made were posted without consultation of those leaders, and none of the actions taken were forced on anyone. And no Kuth, I dont think any Emperor would have acted the way you say, can you see any leader of a sovereign nation being ok with another nation coming into their home and conducting a police action? While some nations wouldn't be able to fight against it, I cant imagine any nation liking it. How should one treat an ally that has repeatedly broken your law?

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[kuth]

I think you shouldn't talk about what you dont know about. In this thread you will find posts by the leadership of the KNF (although not Lotek), Hogosha, Kishiro and Samura. We in Kusari have a group called the Council of the Rising Suns, it is made up of the leadership of the KNF, KSP, AFA, Hogosha, Kishiro, Samura and the Kempati. None of the posts I made were posted without consultation of those leaders, and none of the actions taken were forced on anyone. And no Kuth, I dont think any Emperor would have acted the way you say, can you see any leader of a sovereign nation being ok with another nation coming into their home and conducting a police action? While some nations wouldn't be able to fight against it, I cant imagine any nation liking it. How should one treat an ally that has repeatedly broken your law?

You admit Lotek knows nothing of what is going on. That proves my point. Deiter has also voiced his opinion on the matter. How about you for once look at if from other people's perspective.

I wasn't referring to them policing. I was referring to how you handled the mess. Instead of approaching the CR, an ally, cordially you did so in a hostile manner and with very little proof. You made claims with no proof. Kusari units ordered the CR to leave? Really, I saw no screens of it. I saw screens that depict Ames as opening firing upon an ally faction and said faction defending themselves. From the screens provided by both sides the CR can only assume their units were scrambled to NT to kill some pirates prior to a convoy entering the area (Something they have been doing, though as Ivan has pointed out they shouldn't have been doing). So, instead of acting in the way an Emperor would to an ally, you acted hostile and ignored everything they said and listened to what your own people said regardless of it they had proof not back themselves up or not.

I see an Emperor as a wise man. He would have approached his ally cordially and given them concrete proof that CR units were acting like idiots. Thereby forcing the CR to apologize and bow to him.

So, I do know what I am talking about, simple fact is you don't like what I am saying so you try to invalidate it. Others in this thread said what I did, that both sides acted poorly in response to what happened.

Take your own advice, look at it from other people's perspective.

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[crimecities]

You admit Lotek knows nothing of what is going on. That proves my point. Deiter has also voiced his opinion on the matter. How about you for once look at if from other people's perspective.

This is a Council. If there is a crisis and one member is absent, we go on without him.

Dieter saying that hostilities should be put on hold until Lotek comes back is a valid point, but BOTH sides didn't think of that during the actual incident in question. If they had, this whole thing would of waited until after Lotek got back.

[Exsiled_one]

I think you've got it wrong Kuthumii, really wrong.

Let's brake it down to reality facts.

Kusari has Council of the rising suns.
Representatives of every lawful and quasi lawful factions in Kusari are there
We are there to set aside our differences and improve Kusari as well as advise Emperor on how to push on with certain issue. After all, he is our emperor and Kusari is our place to operate in, we have to make sure he makes good judgement calls.

Since everyone but LoTek has voiced on this matter (and that involves some KSP and KNF second in commands), I am sure LoTek will not defy the entire council. Besides, we think alike there. Thats why Kusari works.

We should ofcourse wait for LoTek's input, and we will, but idea of Zelot forcing me to do something or making a important decision without asking the Council is just funny.

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[kuth]

This is a Council. If there is a crisis and one member is absent, we go on without him.

Dieter saying that hostilities should be put on hold until Lotek comes back is a valid point, but BOTH sides didn't think of that during the actual incident in question. If they had, this whole thing would of waited until after Lotek got back.

My. Point. Exactly. This RP was forced on others without their knowledge or approval. Hence I said what I did. Also not it wasn't directed at just the Kusari side. CR did the same from the posts here.

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[kuth]

I think you've got it wrong Kuthumii, really wrong.

Let's brake it down to reality facts.

Kusari has Council of the rising suns.
Representatives of every lawful and quasi lawful factions in Kusari are there
We are there to set aside our differences and improve Kusari as well as advise Emperor on how to push on with certain issue. After all, he is our emperor and Kusari is our place to operate in, we have to make sure he makes good judgement calls.

Since everyone but LoTek has voiced on this matter (and that involves some KSP and KNF second in commands), I am sure LoTek will not defy the entire council. Besides, we think alike there. Thats why Kusari works.

We should ofcourse wait for LoTek's input, and we will, but idea of Zelot forcing me to do something or making a important decision without asking the Council is just funny.

I am not saying he forced all of you nor do I think how Kusari is run is bad. Its actually a great way to run a House. My problem is (both sides! Not just Kusari side) that people put their own RP first and never even considered other people's RP. Will Lotek challenge the Council? Likely he won't but any RP plans with CR he had are now gone with the wind. Same thing for the CR peeps.

It isn't just these two groups. It happens on the server more than any of us like to admit.

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