Either you edited your post or I didnt see this part, sorry....
Quote:And how much time passed since all that happened in Sirius.. you really think they still have one suncrasher and they didn't evolved a bit.. and they would send one ship.. Nah..
If you look to Sirius nomads they evolved.. much
But that's not the point.. that will never happen because it would basically end FL as we know it.. we would have nomads and more nomads living in peace and growing flowers
I dont think they mass-produce sunpwners on a massive scale.
You only build weapons if you have an enemy that you know about.
Nomads are everywhere where the DKV were, but in a dromant state. They dont spend their time producing weapons to fight enmies they dont know.
They start building them once the threat appears, and stay hidden and subversive until they know they can win.
Imagine building an army of laser-battleships, without knowing about any enemy. What if the enemy you meet, if he ever comes, isnt harmed by laser weapons at all? What if your enemy is a bunch of small ships all over sirius, that doesnt need planets to live (kinda like nomads)? Blowing up one sun after another wouldnt do you any good, your fleet of sunpwners would be quite useless then.
The only reason the nomads lost in Sirius and won in Sol is because they were discovered before it was too late in Sirius, while they werent uncovered in Sol.
Like I've said:
Nomads weren't active yet.
Nomads are localised to Sirius.
There is no information to suggest more than one species of Nomad.
There is no information to suggest Nomads ever being anywhere near Sol before the Suncrusher.
There was no motive for this attack.
My theory, however far-fetched, explains all of this perfectly.
Also, the Coalition weren't infected. To think such is ludicrousness. It is quite certainly far more far-fetched than my theory to think that the Nomads were already infiltrating humanity back during the Sol war.
The Daam K'Vosh could control space and gravity. Time would have been a logical next step from there, and it is indeed possible that the discovery of time manipulation is what caused them to disappear so "suddenly" from Sirius "without a trace," as has been said. Therefore, it would be logical to assume that Daam K'Vosh time manipulation technology might eventually be found or extrapolated from existing Daam K'Vosh technology given enough time. The Nomads would be capable of this, the humans might possibly be. It's all a bit out-there, but it's the most sensible theory that explains the Suncrusher to date.
Thinking that the Nomads somehow have had it in for humanity since the beginning certainly isn't quite so logical, and there is no evidence to suggest anything of the kind.
Depends what you call active.
They were there near the jumpholes to nomad worlds in the form of a few ships sometimes flying around gamma and alpha. In alpha they appeared to feed on cardamine (and possibly one could hear them talk if one used cardamine, some bar rumors suggest that), and they "tended to the dead" in the Outcast graveyard. Means they seemed to get along with outcasts. In gamma, they killed the Corsair pilots that stole artifacts for their test of bravery. So they didnt like them much.
Either way, what apparently really got the acting agressively was when that active artifact was found.
They may have already been plotting and scemingand infiltrating before, but the artifact left them scrambling to stop humans as quickly as possible, compromising their cover. Most probably because the artifact unlocked that gate, and may have given the humans access to the DKV or at least their technology.
Quote:There is no information to suggest more than one species of Nomad.
Same species, different places.
Quote:There was no motive for this attack.
If you didnt know about the artifact and the DKV, you would be saying the same thing about Sirius.
The reason why they attacked humans in both occasions was because they were beginning to be a threat on a "universe scale".
Imagine what the coalition would have done once it had met alliens? Whould it have treated them any better than they treated the alliance? No way. They would have played nice a while until they found a way to win, and then overpowered them before they could overpower us.
They (probably) didnt attack (probably they were already preparing it tho) in the beginning because they dont attack any microbe or mamal that poses no threat. What they do is attack those who they see becoming a threat to them or the DKV one day. And humans definately were. Not yet, but they were bound to become a threat sooner or later. Especially those coalition-type humans.
Quote:My theory, however far-fetched, explains all of this perfectly.
Except why they attacked after the sleeper ships were launched. Especially if they were tiem travelers tehy would KNOW when they would be launched.
Quote:Also, the Coalition weren't infected. To think such is ludicrousness. It is quite certainly far more far-fetched than my theory to think that the Nomads were already infiltrating humanity back during the Sol war.
Not only the Coalition. Anyone who was in power that is able to keep humanity killing itself. On both sides. They infecte Rheinland AND Kusari to get those 2 fighting. Not only one side. And not all on one side were infected. Only some of the leaders.
Quote:The Daam K'Vosh could control space and gravity. Time would have been a logical next step from there, and it is indeed possible that the discovery of time manipulation is what caused them to disappear so "suddenly" from Sirius "without a trace," as has been said.
How would time travel make them all disapear? They all went to a happier time?
How do they control space and gravity?
Quote:Therefore, it would be logical to assume that Daam K'Vosh time manipulation technology might eventually be found or extrapolated from existing Daam K'Vosh technology given enough time. The Nomads would be capable of this, the humans might possibly be. It's all a bit out-there, but it's the most sensible theory that explains the Suncrusher to date.
The nomads dont explore DKV technology. They ARE dkv technology. They reason they wanted tthe artifact was to make sure humans wouldnt use it against them or hte DKV.
They are guardians of the status quo, not researchers.
Quote:Thinking that the Nomads somehow have had it in for humanity since the beginning certainly isn't quite so logical, and there is no evidence to suggest anything of the kind.
Think about it.
Imagine we made contact with an alin race. What would we do? Would we accept them as gods and accept their authority over us? No way. For a while maybe, hoping they wont pwn us. But one of the first things we would do is assess their strength, and think about the possibility to go onto the same level with them, so we could defend ourselves if they decided to attack us. Or if they decided to contstrain us. Would the aliens be interested in us rising to their level? After how they saw how humans act towards themselves? Nope. They wouldnt want that. They would nerf us before we ever became dangerous to them. When you see a mangy dog running around, you dont wait till it bites you. You shoot it before it does any harm. Humans arent much more than dogs to the nomads.
' Wrote:They would nerf us before we ever became dangerous to them. When you see a mangy dog running around, you dont wait till it bites you. You shoot it before it does any harm. Humans arent much more than dogs to the nomads.
It's a mix of the Canon, Freelancer developer material, and Discovery-made information. All put together to make sense, and expand the Vanilla Freelancer Nomad into something a little more deep - the Discovery/Developer Nomad. Your view of them is very much still Vanilla, without depth. A lot of the things you're saying don't fit with the Lore at all.
That is why I suggested you familiarise yourself with it.
What part of the lore that came from microsoft suggests that no one in sol was infected?
And which part suggests time travel? (also coming from microsoft)
