Cardamine is legal for personal use in Bretonia, and let's stop the bloody pissing contest about "who's ally is the best", this is not about the lolsairs and Kusari.
Changing our tech to white for the Bretonians would change -nothing- since a mere story wouldn't be enough, they would still have to go through me, and let me be damned clear on this: I do not grant technology to just any pillock, primarily because our tech is damn good, and many pvp whores want to get their hands on it, but also because it doesn't fit our RP to hand out guns left and right.
QCP will be granted -limited- use of Krakens and maybe an Inferno cannon, that's it. It's not like I'm giving them a truckload of Krakens which they can mount on all of their ships. So yeah.
And let's not forget, and I'll say this for the last time, in bold letters: My character is from Bretonia.
Rule Bretonia! Bretonia rules the skies!
So yeah, there's your RP justification for closer ties right there. Now stop being anal about it and think of other unlikely alliances which have been granted in the past on less solid foundations and reasons.
I may be missing something here, but it seems like you guys are hung up on something that's not quite right.
You may use things in the red boxes with special RP requests. The difference between the red and white cells is simple. The white cells require the approval of one of the faction leaders. Faction leader approves, he makes a post / notice in his relevant section of the tech chart here, and it's a done deal.
Red cell tech - such as allowing Outcast tech on Bretonian ships - MUST be approved by the admin team. So there is a process for you to get access to this tech if you can present a compelling reason for it, including justifiable RP to back it up. So, based upon what Dennis said in his post, if as the owning faction leader of the tech he approved of the tech transfer, then the QCP has to post their Special RP request, make sure that we (the Admin team) have time to study this request along with appropriate background, and then wait for the process to go through. It may be approved, it may not be approved.
But just arbitrarily changing the tech chart ain't going to happen.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
I'll posit, Agmen, that no one is forgetting either process. This is the first step in getting the PRIVATEER ID set to White (or purple, which might be better) to Outcast tech on the Chart.
QCP is actually looking for feedback on this, not asking that it be changed immediately. Nor are we asking for this change willy-nilly either, but instead are taking the in-game RP to it's next step.
QCP has been working with the Outcasts in 37 and 23 (that's the Taus) for a while now against the CR mainly. An alliance of need has developed between the two groups, and has branched out into Outcasts being amenable to helping QCP in their efforts against Kusari. This may start to produce fruit in joint QCP/101st missions into Kusari, it might not (hasn't been decided). It might have the QCP being given Outcast weaponry and tech in exchange for assistance in the upper Taus. (also don't know yet).
One thing that a LOT of people seem to forget, dismiss, or outright ignore for their own personal agendas, is that the QCP, and the Privateer ID in general, are outcasts in their own rite, being exiled from Bretonia proper. There is RP of the BAF Fleet Admiral (Nelles, I believe) charging Andrew Stuart (founder and leader of QCP) with piracy and high treason, condemning not only him, but his followers (rest of QCP) to death in Bretonia. While the QCP are devoutly Queen's men (and women), they know that they cannot go home without total victory or a full pardon from the Admiralty, Letter of Marque not-withstanding.
This means that you won't see BAF Templars sporting Infernos and Krakens because they would still be red on the Tech Chart ooRPly, and it's be ridiculous inRP for BAF to be using what is officially deemed pirate hardware. Think harder people.
What you COULD see, however, is QCP flying Eagles and Virages with a couple of Krakens, and perhaps for a lucky one or two, an Inferno. Anything else would go through an SRP process (if we were donated a Sabre or two, or a Tridente, etc).
As for the pissing contest about Corsairs/Kusari and Outcast/Bretonia...[*self edited for content*]
' Wrote:Kishiro are not really appreciated within Kusari itself, since they're known to help out the GC and BD some.
I lol'd.
However, for the topic itself: I don't like the idea. The Bretonians are intruders into Tau-23 themselves after all, so when the war would be over without having Bretonia crushed to dust I'm pretty sure the outcasts would start hitting BMM again. The NAP is a tactical move to prevent both sides from wasting additional ressources, nothing about liking each other.
' Wrote:Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.
@The Watsassassin: Care to back up those claims that Kishiro is not appreciated in Kusari? I really dislike such statements if they aren't based on some sort of fact.
It presents a really wrong image about a hard working faction.
just one thing to remember. When the war i finished, those guns might aswell turn against you.
Uhm....... Corsairs and Kusari are very very Red on the tech chart.
I personally dont really have a problem with it, but when the rp starts the Bretonia is a failed state, because it's openly consorting with Drug Dealers and Criminals to help in it's war. Also, remember, one day the War will be over, and people wont forget the things that Bretonia has done in the war. Allying with the Outcasts, violating rules of war with the Privateers. A time of reckoning will come, and the more you throw "Lawful" out the window to help your battle, the less legitimate your house will be to others after the war. How do you think your good friends in Liberty will feel when they start to see images of Bretonian Military ships carrying Krakens?
Well have fun with your pvp guns, I hope I dont hear whining when you guys get called on it in rp.