Shield-running should be against the rules. It is extremely annoying, and will prolong a dogfight for as long as the wimp/runner wants to.
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Sorry to invade this thread... I'm still lurking on the forums. Dab, you and I have our differences. You kept annoying me for quite some time now, and threatening HF underhanded, probably due to your reasons with me, because I was part of that clan. Well, I thought about it, and quit HF, for you to leave them alone. Better I left, for the rest of HF to carry on diplomatic relations with your clan. I did that thinking at the best interests of HF at that time. Now you start with them?!? I have left HF, you got what you wanted, but what the hell is your problem? Dunno man, I had a good opinion about you. Please don't change that.
Just re-read rules, and could not find it either. Rules must have changed recently, as i remember the rule was under the PvP section and included a short description of what shieldrunning was...
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' Wrote:Sorry to invade this thread... I'm still lurking on the forums. Dab, you and I have our differences. You kept annoying me for quite some time now, and threatening HF underhanded, probably due to your reasons with me, because I was part of that clan. Well, I thought about it, and quit HF, for you to leave them alone. Better I left, for the rest of HF to carry on diplomatic relations with your clan. I did that thinking at the best interests of HF at that time. Now you start with them?!? I have left HF, you got what you wanted, but what the hell is your problem? Dunno man, I had a good opinion about you. Please don't change that.
Regards, Hylden.
Are you high? Why would I be going after you or HF? First of all, I've been helping HF since it was created, why would I be flaming them for anything? Ask Tank, and he'll tell you I'm not. And threatening HF underhanded? Are you seriously on crack or acid or something?
Let me put my opinion here. It can hurt some people with high sensibilities here, but need to be told. The HF is not properly working as lane hackers in my opinion. Several times I was told, both by Tank and BFH, that the HF are not lane hackers, just "affiliated" to them. But if they are just "affiliated", how they bought the Vespucci system, which is the lane hacker guard system?
When I joined the AW, I was looking for two things: first, play as a zoner, second, do some mercenary jobs (which dont worked anyway). There was a third one which was to beat the SA again, but lets not count this here. Anyway, I looked to the AW as zoners, although Dab said repeatedly to the flamers that they are not, explaining in posts that, if assembled together, can be edited as a book. When I said to Hylden to not lose time with flamers, was because the time you try explaining things to them, you can spend it for some more productive thing. I can say the same for Dab, although I dont known if he will listen me. The AW is much more zoner than the ~V~, because the AW care for the people in the Freeports, when the ~V~ only cares for deuterium. So, why to give explanations to the flamers?
Now, back to the HF: when the war against SA and SF was over, the HF declared neutral status with them. During the talks, the SA said they were still going to hunt any lane hackers around. The HF said nothing in response. If the SA had said the same about zoners, the AW was to quickly declare hostilities with them.
I remember quite well when the Perseus, still being lane hacker tagged, required assistance from the HF against the SA and this assistance was refused. That was one of the reasons why the Perseus joined the outcasts (the other being the idea of a drug cartel, backed by some dons of Malta), since theres no outcasts players in Liberty, and the only outcast clan is very far away.
But not just that, there was also the invasion on Vespucci, the required reparations which were not paid, and BFH joining the SA with another Mark Kaine, which can cause confusion to some people. I just imagine a noob playing as a lane hacker, seeing you neutral to each other and a Mark Kaine in both factions. What he will think?
Other thing: it was told the HF are also unlawful mercenaries. All mercenaries are unlawful to some extent, as they do the dirt job the houses dont want to do (but that is open for discussion). But what house will hire lane hackers? The HF even proposed to be hired by the KNF, and the KNF are enemies of lane hackers, something I known for months since Ive got missions on Leiden. And what unlawful group will hire the HF? The Brotherhood, which are their enemies? Or the GoR, who dont need mercenaries?
So, thats what I have to say: lane hackers are pirates, terrorists, and if you are affiliated, you are one of them, as this affiliation is a allegiance. The AW now have its own ID, the HF can also ask for a ID. But for now, they are still carrying the lane hacker ID, and this means they have to attack Liberty, and kick the SA assess, not just sitting at Vespucci.
This is not a flaming attempt. Im not flaming the HF, just questioning their role. Saying in the forum you will attack Liberty and kick the SA is one thing, doing the real thing in the server is another. Why do you think the Perseus never joined the HF? Its a criminal ship, unlawful in nature, so the hostility is non-stop. It will only stop if I decomission it or some house faction pay me to not attack them.
Perhaps this have something to do with the AW alliance. Because any hostility with the SA will bring the AW in the war, and the flames against the roleplaying of both factions will restart. If its necessary to break the alliance with the AW so that the HF can play as lane hackers without bringing those flames, this can be done.
Tank, I hope you had read everything, because some people around here dont read everything I write, just the first lines, and then start putting words on my mouth. Hylden left the HF because, according to him, Dab have a personal vendetta against him, and when he hailed Dab in game, as a ally, Dab dont answered him. He even showed me a screenshot of him hailing Dab and Dab dont answering. Anyway, the HF have to care for the lane hackers in the same way the AW care for the zoners, the SA care for the liberty corporations and the ~V~ care for deuterium.
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