' Wrote:Um - no - Korrd recently posted that with a Rogue ID, I have cannot pirate outside Liberty or the nearby independent systems. I tried pirating in my Blood Dragon in Rheinland space and got complaints by RM for even being there. The complaints got so loud that Korrd ruled I couldn't take my Blood Dragon ID'd character outside Kusari and pirate. I can fly there, just can't pirate. Hence, this is the first step to pirating. Also, Korrd said the only way to pirate anywhere is to use the generic Pirate ID.
Well it was changed apparently, though I never get complaints when my Bundschuh makes runs to Omegas, or Honshu (where I usually have to chase armor-laden traders from Sigma-13).
From what I remember from that encounter, you told us as the Blood Dragon you were just there to visit. We still wanted you gone since you were a pirate. You threw in what Korrd had said about pirate and their ZoI. We argued in system for about an hour if I recall correctly.
*Bangs head on table* I'm sorry, but I thought we came to a conclusion on this. Use the generic Pirate ID right? Archelon, if you still hold something against the RM for what happened that night, please by all means, talk to me about it via a PM. Let's not rehash everything that's happened in the past today.
Where if anywhere does it say a trader in say" A container ship" cannot max out his armour and guns to defend against pirate's and such. My trader does have armour upgrade VIII and i have 12 of the best fighter turret's i can mount on it.It is spend money on defences/spend on MERC's/or get pirated. No pirate fighter ever comes at me with level 1 guns sheilds or armour so why should a trader have crap equipment? HMMM?
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Well, a blood dragon, rogue, or specific pirate should not pirate outside his space. also, many pirates are there not to pirate but to destabilize certain house, or as a way of complaint against certain house. So it would not make sense to see, say, a GC on Rheinland, as they want to take Ku government down and they don't care about RH.
So, if you are from a specific "unlawful" faction, restrict your actions to the faction you have selected. Else, you can use a generic Pirate ID.
(If you find any mistake in my English, please let me know via a PM)
(Really, I speak terrible English, so please, tell me if I make mistakes. I'd like to improve it a bit )
This discussion always slides back into the piratetrader thing...
Unless somebody contributes concering the lawfulunlawful idea I guess I won't post in this thread anymore. No point.
' Wrote:From what I remember from that encounter, you told us as the Blood Dragon you were just there to visit. We still wanted you gone since you were a pirate. You threw in what Korrd had said about pirate and their ZoI. We argued in system for about an hour if I recall correctly.
*Bangs head on table* I'm sorry, but I thought we came to a conclusion on this. Use the generic Pirate ID right? Archelon, if you still hold something against the RM for what happened that night, please by all means, talk to me about it via a PM. Let's not rehash everything that's happened in the past today.
Seems like everyone is bringing old stuff up.
Cay OUT
Well that's partly right - we had encounters before that encounter - when I was attempting to pirate the former SirRed's Train. That was back when I was new to the server. And I was placed on your KoS when I attempted to pirate a Bs| trader docking at New Berlin. All this in my Blood Dragon. All this happened BEFORE Korrd made that announcement. AFTER the announcement I went there for vacation and was harassed. Apparently there's different rules for pirates than for lawfuls.
And this is not pointing fingers at RM. This is a general pirating issue. Not old stuff, just an observation as to the tenner of this server. Pirating is a dead art since its impossible to RP as a pirate these days.
Korrd: It doesn't matter what ID I wear. ALL ID's I wear are treated as pirate first and destabilizer never. Which was my point in Rheinland that one day. A Blood Dragon is described as a terrorist in Kusari space meant on replacing the rightful heir to the throne. A Blood Dragon is ALLOWED to pirate, but is not primarily a pirate. Nevertheless, I'm called a pirate. Same with my Red Hessian and Rogues. And your point about being specifically from an "unlawful" faction ONLY? Why restrict the "unlawful" factions more than those that are "lawful"? It should go also for the "lawful" factions. Too many times I find SF (a Bretonian faction) patrolling in Omega 5 (a waring system between Corsairs and Red Hessians). Why should my Red Hessian be given demands from a Bretonian in Omega 5?
Can we have a "little" balance for pirates? If not, just let me know so I can sell everything I have and assimilate to the good side. ALL my characters are on the "unlawful" side. As it currently stands, the only way I can make money is to take on NPCs in missions and sell captured Bounty Hunters to the Mollys in Dublin. Far less profitable than a trader making 10 million in a round trip between Cambridge and Theta. I demand on average 2 million per encounter. That's 1/5 of a single round trip for these traders. And once I receive payment, my understanding is they are to be left alone. So the trader makes maybe 100 million or so in an hour and I get a simple 2% of his overall take. Trust me - there's no profit in pirating. And its getting to where you can't pirate in a fighter. Gotta have a gunboat to do the job. Even partnering up doesn't work since traders are now traveling in packs with escorts.
Just today, three of us took on two traders being escorted by a bounty hunter. The bounty hunter took out 2 of us. I had the bounty hunter down to a strand of hull when out of the blue another trader (in a container ship) stopped by, provided the bounty hunter with batteries and nanobots and proceeded to park and provide cover fire for the bounty hunter (kinda like a battleship would do). Come on... Pirating is truly dead if this is acceptable...
EDIT: Oh yes, my ID's also say I'm allowed to collect bounties as well.
I have had many victories, and defeats, as a pirate, both inner and outer systems. However, the trend your refering to is disturbing but, as Pirates, we must think outside the norm. Scour the rules to remain compliant but find novel ways to seperate the trader from their baubles. It can be done me hearties, arrrgh!
There is one post of mine somewhere stating that all factions which are perfectly aligned to a NPC faction must behave as such. That means, that SF has no rights on 5, RM has no authority outside Rheinland, etc...
so they should not be asking for cargo, scanning, or policing outside their respective areas of influence.
(If you find any mistake in my English, please let me know via a PM)
(Really, I speak terrible English, so please, tell me if I make mistakes. I'd like to improve it a bit )
' Wrote:Well, a blood dragon, rogue, or specific pirate should not pirate outside his space. also, many pirates are there not to pirate but to destabilize certain house, or as a way of complaint against certain house. So it would not make sense to see, say, a GC on Rheinland, as they want to take Ku government down and they don't care about RH.
So, if you are from a specific "unlawful" faction, restrict your actions to the faction you have selected. Else, you can use a generic Pirate ID.
I guess this works with what I did.
For example; My GC stays in Kusari and leaves on only two conditions.
I'm chasing a trader, which happens fairly often, as traders going between Kusari and Rheinland are common.
I'm attacking Corsairs which takes place either in Omegas or Gamma.
Nearly the same for my Bundschuh except I limit the traders I go after to those trading with Rheinland. So if your a trader doing the Cambridge - Theta route, you won't see my Wraith unless I'm passing through and your unlucky enough I see you. Since I'm rarely in Omegas, thats not likely to happen.
I say a pirate being in another house is okay depending on the circumstances. Taking my Wraith to Kusari for no purpose other than to fight KNF would be wrong. I have done that before, but it was to help defend the Scythes which are LWB-aligned and outnumbered grossly by the KNF.
' Wrote:There is one post of mine somewhere stating that all factions which are perfectly aligned to a NPC faction must behave as such. That means, that SF has no rights on 5, RM has no authority outside Rheinland, etc...
so they should not be asking for cargo, scanning, or policing outside their respective areas of influence.
Thank you Korrd. This will provide some relief in Omega 5 for me to interdict traders violating Hessian space. After all, if folks would do some research on the Red Hessians, they'd find that they are in an embittered battle with the Corsairs for dominance over the Omegas. Should the Hessians win this fight, they would be a house of their own among the Omegas.
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