How do Police / Military pilots get paid?

[Akura]

It's not just in Liberty in fact in Kusari it's even worse. I come there often with my trader and the people I get to see there usually are:

Other traders
Hogosha
Farmers Alliance

I never ever saw a police in Kusari actually!

It's not worse in Kusari, that's just how the bizzare roleplay works there.

The Police and Naval Forces just aren't active enough.


And the Hogosha and Farmers Alliance are overconfident due to the lack of Blood Dragons and Chyrsanthemums.

If you wanna fix it, play a BD or GC.

[Not Espi]

- because 6 military factions per one house is just plain stupid and 6 pirate groups per house is not
- because (in NY) everyone buys a LABC and thinks they are invincible, and the pirates usualy prove them wrong in a matter of a few minutes
- because instead of making a lawful character to even up the ratio, people go and make a thread like this
- because a lawful character means loss in monetary means unless you find a smuggler


that's from the top of my head. and i have a badass hangover.

and get out of liberty.

also, here...

[Reacher]

Figure if an Admin gave a couple factions a little kick in the rear they'd get more active.

Either way Kusari's problems are based off what TZ you live in and general mod problems associated with player distribution.

And before you go off and make a KNF or KSP or any other faction ID'd ship take a good hard look at your reasons for doing so. Unless of course you have the money to waste :P

[Hone]

I completeley agree, Lawfulls definitely need to get a wage, the problem is how? Who would pay them? The official faction? Then that leaves out indies, and where does the official faction get the money to pay them? From the official trader factions? The indies are leftout again.
Prehaps they collect taxes from traders they see in space? Thats a little close to piracy for my complete liking, but, it seems its the only way.

However we do it, we NEED to get a wage for lawfulls, as it is completely unfair for them,
- and this is me talking as a primary pirate player - (which is obviously hard if you do it in a starflier "we are going to die" guy) I regularly kill lawfulls who try to arrest me as I make my money, - Yes zoey thats why I do it, to make money (sometimes I make more than my trader if I do it smart) - the difference is, I'm earning as I do that, whereas they aren't.

Some people are rich enough, or big enough RP addicts (yes zoey I'm looking at you again) to play a worthless job just for RP, but to my mind, that in itself is bad for RP, as a policeman would not be working for free, he would be working and worrying about, - and therefore playing according to - his paycheck.

Another problem this no-wage situation has caused, is the abuse of police/navy ships:
people buy a BAF gunbaot, park it on essex, mine with their BMM, then as soon as they see a pirate in-system, on chat, they switch to their gunboats, hunt down the pirate just to get rid of him, no RP, -mayby the pirate has done nothing yet- and continue mining. Thats the only way they can actually make their Army ship pay.

And of course, no pay means less police, Me for instance, I was in the BAF, but as soon as I could, I joined the privateers, cos they are the only ones who make money.
I'd like to join BPA, But why should I do a job just as fun -prehaps less as probs less action- as pirating, when I make money pirating, and not policing?

As for fines, cmon, does ANYONE believe they even come close to earning what pirating does? Seeing as you're often fining fighting criminals, they rarely pay anyway.

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[Hone]

- because 6 military factions per one house is just plain stupid and 6 pirate groups per house is not
- because (in NY) everyone buys a LABC and thinks they are invincible, and the pirates usualy prove them wrong in a matter of a few minutes
- because instead of making a lawful character to even up the ratio, people go and make a thread like this
- because a lawful character means loss in monetary means unless you find a smuggler
that's from the top of my head. and i have a badass hangover.

and get out of liberty.

maybe you didn't read the thread title, but those answers are answering a question that isn't the question!

The thread is about how to pay police/navy, and make more of them, not why there are no police/navy.
And people make threads like this because they want to improve the game.

Also; why should he get out of liberty? Don't be rude.

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[Dusty Lens]

Direct deposit.

[Akura]

I completeley agree, Lawfulls definitely need to get a wage, the problem is how? Who would pay them? The official faction? Then that leaves out indies, and where does the official faction get the money to pay them? From the official trader factions? The indies are leftout again.
Prehaps they collect taxes from traders they see in space? Thats a little close to piracy for my complete liking, but, it seems its the only way.

However we do it, we NEED to get a wage for lawfulls, as it is completely unfair for them,
- and this is me talking as a primary pirate player - (which is obviously hard if you do it in a starflier "we are going to die" guy) I regularly kill lawfulls who try to arrest me as I make my money, - Yes zoey thats why I do it, to make money (sometimes I make more than my trader if I do it smart) - the difference is, I'm earning as I do that, whereas they aren't.

Some people are rich enough, or big enough RP addicts (yes zoey I'm looking at you again) to play a worthless job just for RP, but to my mind, that in itself is bad for RP, as a policeman would not be working for free, he would be working and worrying about, - and therefore playing according to - his paycheck.

Another problem this no-wage situation has caused, is the abuse of police/navy ships:
people buy a BAF gunbaot, park it on essex, mine with their BMM, then as soon as they see a pirate in-system, on chat, they switch to their gunboats, hunt down the pirate just to get rid of him, no RP, -mayby the pirate has done nothing yet- and continue mining. Thats the only way they can actually make their Army ship pay.

And of course, no pay means less police, Me for instance, I was in the BAF, but as soon as I could, I joined the privateers, cos they are the only ones who make money.
I'd like to join BPA, But why should I do a job just as fun -prehaps less as probs less action- as pirating, when I make money pirating, and not policing?

As for fines, cmon, does ANYONE believe they even come close to earning what pirating does? Seeing as you're often fining fighting criminals, they rarely pay anyway.

Trading makes money, Mining makes money.

Policing and Pirating are not supposed to make money. You ever get pissed when a pirate charges you a stupid amount? It's thoughts like this that are the problem.

Play for fun, play to RP.


Don't play just to earn money, it'll get you nowhere.

[Anomander]

Yup - becouse old one was closed.

- because instead of making a lawful character to even up the ratio, people go and make a thread like this

I have an Merc char - and I try my best to hunt pirates, or ad least make them leave a Pensylwania system, and stop buging a newbies.

and get out of liberty.

Running will not solve a problem.

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[Akura]

Okay, how do you think Police/Military should be paid?

Where will the money come from?

[teschy]

Okay, how do you think Police/Military should be paid?

Where will the money come from?

Your bank.