Greetings,
I have recently acquired the Zoner Jugg, my question stands simple for few areas :
First, any good links to Zoner lore and such so I know the background for such faction
second, who can I engage with that ship? Ive been reading the ID and it states really tough limitations, but most of all
Can only attack those who are : directly attacking Zoners or Zoner NPC faction allies, carrying Zoner pilots, diplomatically hostile to Zoners, or those who have violated Freeport neutrality
How exactly do I find out who are zoners allied to since its several groups spread all over (or I might be wrong, not sure). Also being able to dock on IMG stations, am I entitled to use such ship in defense of IMG facility or the ally part is necessary there?
You should have figured it out before getting it. I see that the most important question for you is shooting. Sadly to you, Zoners are neutral to almost everyone, so you won't find many targets to shoot at. Now for RP part, if you don't know by now, you should not have bought that ship. But if you really wanna learn go to wiki to start with.
Doesn't change the fact that you are more into shooting where Zoners are diplomatic. I find it strange to ask where to read lore when we have such good wiki. Good luck flying that ship.
getting familiar with the lore and the current political situation is what needs to be done for every faction - in case of the zoners - it might sometimes be a little more complex, cause out of the 3 zoner factions - 3 factions walk different pathes ( compared to many other factions where almost all the official factions follow one single path )
one of the few lores about the zoner juggernaut is ( was ) the one attached to the old juggernaut. - i m not sure if the current ID says the same ( cause i don t fly one )
back then:
in order to understand zoner guardships - you need to understand the two fundamental uses of "weapons".
there are only two kinds of weapons. - one weapons is there for wearing - the other weapon is there for killing. - zoner weapons are there for wearing. - whats the difference you may ask.... - you can kill with either of them.
the weapon you wear is there to show that you HAVE a weapon - and you wish not to use it - but having a weapon means that you CAN make use of it. - a weapon that is there for killing however is a weapon that you conceal. - you don t want others to see you have it - you show it when you kill.
a zoner warship is a "threat" - it is looming over possible attackers - and hoped never to be used. when it is being used - it is meant to be used to utterly crush the enemy. - that means either completely overwhelm the enemy by outgunning him - or make sure that he ll have to retreat in panic.- so zoners rather RELUCTANTLY use this weapon - but when they do - they put it ot the purpose of killing. - no grand stand, no flourishing the weapon - but more straight foreward killing.
the juggernaut "was" meant to be a myth - a myth is .... if you take it literal ... similar to a fable... that means... a lie with a purpose. in RP - these ships are meant to overwhelm the opposition ( due to balance - it is not so... hence ... hardly a real myth )
the power of the juggernaut is uncertainty. - a military commander that is confronted with the uncertain cannot plan a strategy. - he may be bold and charge - hoping that the threat turns out to be less dangerous than the the rumor - or he blindly runs into his death. - uncertainty is the main weapon.
this weapon can only be RPed when all the players RP it .... or in other words - it does not work on disco.
the more practical part about your question:
- ask the offical factions about their claimed territory
- ask them about their diplomatic stance
- ask them about their REASONS why they consider someone hostile or not
right now - there is plenty of work for a warship - but becoming part of the "network" of players who play zoners is essential ( mind you - its the same for most other factions, too )
playing a zoner capital isn t very much different to playing a zoner light fighter or any other faction.
you just gotto know who is who - the basic ID card only gives you so much information.
Well Zoners are allied to GMG and Order. I can only provide what I know from my spectrum.
First and foremost is the economic pact GMG and Zoners have with each other. The Zoners are the primary harvestors of Deuterium which is one of three vital componants to H-fuel and isn't as abundant in the Sigmas as the other two obviously are. As population increases in Sirius this bond too will increase.
The other part mentioned in rumours and infocards is a fellow kinship felt between Zoners and GMG. Both are groups existing outside of house, seperate from house laws and the majority of both population live and die without ever setting foot on a planet (We are into old Vanilla here as this is before Gran Canaria and Miura existed and even with those two planets most of both populations probably won't have the need to set foot on them). GMG has just been doing it longer and unlike the Zoners, GMG is intricately entwined with House politics.
We are trade friends and good neighbours, basically, but there really isn't any martial pact between GMG and Zoners that has ever been mentioned. I've never seen any Zoners come to give martial aid to GMG in my entire time here. This is explainable, Zoners (in RP) have no enemies and avoid making them. We have, only on rare occasion, come to aid the Zoners. This is still not accurate, though, as we really were there already with our own agenda against Corsairs (huge GMG RP grudge against their former ally) whether they are attacking Zoners or not. Protection, of course, for Zoners is always available to those who wish to hide in the warm embrace of our clouds or the safety of our Guard system (which will be "open" next mod).
Edit add: @Arthur; I know what you are trying to say, I can recognize how you feel about it. There is a difference here then most of those other cases that had given you that obvious bitter taste in your mouth. For one, Reptile here is, like yourself, part of a Disco minority that uses the forums. This means at least he can be communicated to outside the constrains of the in-game server. Second; he's asking for adivice, which puts him in an even smaller minority on top of it all. To me it's a far cry different then most other cases in which a player acquired a ship before knowing the lore. Third; he didn't powertrade his way up with a goal to have a pewpew monster (or at least not this one) it was recieved as second hand and he wishes to know how to properly use it.
Well it kind of stabs me that these days people rather make topic and write sentences instead of trying to find the information themselves. Dunno is it stupidity, laziness or +1. Well your post is way more helping than the ones I made.
Thanks for some clarification.
Seeing what Jinx and Prowler wrote, ill be off to contact the main Zoner factions, if any operate the area in Taus where some freeports are, and try to get myself along all the lore and such about Zoners. Ill be keeping the ship grounded until time I feel I can properly RP that beastie of peace.
[font=Century Gothic][color=#CC66CC]Don't mind the troll.
You could come to the Omicrons and see how the others are playing the Juggies. I've seen some. Also, because O-74 is a closed system to anyone but zoners and their allies, you can enforce (pew pew) this with the big lady. *whispers* I've seen some caps around... caps that shouldn't be there.
Also... who's your friend? A juggie as a gift is awesome. I need friends like that:P
In theory with that ship you can kill only Zoners enemies ... that we don't have, oficialy! Nomads are enemies. so you can kill then but please avoid Iota or 99. Yes i know that 99 have some battleships but avoid those territories. Zoners don't provoke. Also you must avoid house territories ... they don't like to see big ships like that, i know because i have a Aquilon, and since that is bigger than a Aquilon, a Jinkusu is not a ship that you can move easely. There is a lot a places you can use your gift ... damn .. i worked so hard to get my Aquilon and isn't 100% ...for now the main ones are the Omegas and Omicrons. For the future mod i see the worst for Zoners in the Taus.
So if you want to use your .. gift ... damn ... there are plenty of what you can do but remember of what you can't do.