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Let's talk on the Nephthys

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Let's talk on the Nephthys
Offline McNeo
02-11-2012, 01:54 AM,
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' Wrote:So, your justification for nerfing our mainstay ship, after your mainstay ship was buffed, was it felt faster, and an infocard.

And a base that only sees use now for repping.

Makes perfect sense.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
And Kai, not helping =_=

With pleasure.

Guardian was buffed a bit, still behind Wraith by some distance. The thing that makes it around the same level is not the ship, but the guns (or rather the presence of Vengeances relative to any direct answer from the RM in the form of their own 8.33s). This lasts as long as the guns stay "better", which frankly I trust less than ship balance, because it's easier to do guns.

Atum is a base that sees many capital ships docked on it, and I'm pretty sure they're not repping. I should know, because I've fought alongside them against Liberty quite recently. You can pass them off as whatever you like, but it doesn't change the fact that the Order and Liberty are still on each others' enemies list.

Maybe this doesn't make sense, but you folks seem quite preoccupied with the notion that Liberty doesn't want peace, when in fact, the right terms simply haven't been offered ("we wont shoot you if you don't shoot us" is more like an armistice than a peace). I honestly believe you've not thought about it too much, but even that wouldn't change the fact that if you balance for areas rather than overall, you will get things used where they're not supposed to be.
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-11-2012, 02:06 AM,
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' Wrote:With pleasure.

Guardian was buffed a bit, still behind Wraith by some distance. The thing that makes it around the same level is not the ship, but the guns (or rather the presence of Vengeances relative to any direct answer from the RM in the form of their own 8.33s). This lasts as long as the guns stay "better", which frankly I trust less than ship balance, because it's easier to do guns.

Atum is a base that sees many capital ships docked on it, and I'm pretty sure they're not repping. I should know, because I've fought alongside them against Liberty quite recently. You can pass them off as whatever you like, but it doesn't change the fact that the Order and Liberty are still on each others' enemies list.

Maybe this doesn't make sense, but you folks seem quite preoccupied with the notion that Liberty doesn't want peace, when in fact, the right terms simply haven't been offered ("we wont shoot you if you don't shoot us" is more like an armistice than a peace). I honestly believe you've not thought about it too much, but even that wouldn't change the fact that if you balance for areas rather than overall, you will get things used where they're not supposed to be.
Last time i checked, George Bush - I mean James Powell, wanted to research Nomads. His methods we didnt like.

But that is for a different thread, which I'd be glad to make to actually discuss this honestly BS hostilities.

Now, Im going to be frank. I see no real reason you want the Nephthys nerfed. It can't be based solely on the Guardian or Avenger; you said yourself, the ship makes no diference, as an Avenger beat you.

Why do you want our main fighter nerfed?

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Offline McNeo
02-11-2012, 02:12 AM,
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He's a better pilot than me. Let's assume that I'm a better pilot than you for a second.

Why should I fly a worse ship because I'm a better pilot, or because people flying the ship I want to fly tend to be better than the people flying the ship that my enemies fly? Are you really forcing me, and people like me, to fly with a handicap because for whatever reason (laziness/disability/other commitments) because you can't get up to my level of skill?

I'd like to see the Nephthys nerfed because its current stats cant be justified when compared to the Guardian and the Avenger, yet they fight each other. Please tell me how you can justify them when they can, and do, fight each other.
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Offline Hades
02-11-2012, 02:14 AM,
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ITT: McNeo whining that yet another fighter is OP compared to the [insert Liberty Navy fighter here]
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Offline McNeo
02-11-2012, 02:17 AM,
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(yawn) Sorry, don't like being handicapped because you can't be bothered to train.
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-11-2012, 02:17 AM,
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' Wrote:He's a better pilot than me. Let's assume that I'm a better pilot than you for a second.

Why should I fly a worse ship because I'm a better pilot, or because people flying the ship I want to fly tend to be better than the people flying the ship that my enemies fly? Are you really forcing me, and people like me, to fly with a handicap because for whatever reason (laziness/disability/other commitments) because you can't get up to my level of skill?

I'd like to see the Nephthys nerfed because its current stats cant be justified when compared to the Guardian and the Avenger, yet they fight each other. Please tell me how you can justify them when they can, and do, fight each other.
1.) You are better then me.
2.) We are meant to fight NOMADS, so are balanced towards NOMADS, you are SECOND THOUGHT.
3.) The Guardian feels faster then my Insurgent. Nerf Guardian please, I don't want to fight you with my stuff slightly underpowered, please nerf your stuff so I can kick your ass easier.


EDIT: Sorry, can't be assed to train. I have to defend my stuff from you instead of train like i should

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-11-2012, 02:19 AM,
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' Wrote:1.) You are better then ne
2.) We are meant to fight NOMADS, so are balanced towards NOMADS, you are SECOND THOUGHT.
3.) The Guardian feels faster then my Insurgent. Nerf Guardian please, I don't want to fight you with my stuff slightly underpowered, please nerf your stuff so I can kick your ass easier.

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Except .3

If you mean El Daggero Insie..

Lol.

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Offline Reid
02-11-2012, 02:22 AM,
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The Neph is nerfed enough. I mean, Jeremy DOES fly it after all

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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-11-2012, 02:23 AM,
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' Wrote:
Le signed.

Except .3

If you mean El Daggero Insie..

Lol.

~K.
3 was me using his logic.

Np.



Edit: Funny Reid.

Now go clean Kalashnikov's restroom on Gorodok.

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Offline Eternal Nightmare
02-11-2012, 02:24 AM,
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' Wrote:The Neph is nerfed enough. I mean, Jeremy DOES fly it after all


True TRUE!



Buut...leave the Neph alone its perfectly good ship...

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