Togo

[Cond0r]

I'd rather remove that ship altogether and grant the ]bd[ a pair of stolen/salvaged/whatever SRP Kusari battleships to avoid any discussion like the current one.

So you would rather remove the ship from the game instead of trying to discuss its future (by reverting/not reverting the SRP), and possibly opening more gameplay possibilities with it?

Make this man a developer, 4.86 will come out next week with his logic.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[Curios]

Okay, when here comes a Xenos, DSE, Gaians, Bundschuh or Civilian battleships? PM me please when it's done.

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[Linkus]

I want a Molly battleship.
It'll be a giant floating nuclear bomb.
We'll call it the "Irish Banking System"

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[Ceoran]

So you would rather remove the ship from the game instead of trying to discuss its future (by reverting/not reverting the SRP), and possibly opening more gameplay possibilities with it?

Make this man a developer, 4.86 will come out next week with his logic.

You are hitting an interesting point there. Less "but this needs to get into the next mod version too" surely would speed up the process.

But my main point for removing the Togo is that it doesn't really fit the dragons to be able to build them. The GMG support for the dragons is a rather new thing, so the existence of Mito itself as a huge shipyard (which we can only assume from the looks due to the lack of a full infocard) is something I'd question. Not to forget that it's kinda strange that a faction that bases out of dark asteroid fields is fielding larger capital ships at all.
Why try to justify something that is awkward instead of just removing it?

Strangely enough, the Togo was the first battleship I ever encountered on Disco. Fun times back in .84 when you could get all the way to Sigma-13 without seeing a single battleship. Even leaving Liberty without seeing a player controlled one is hard today:rolleyes:

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My Stories Outcast laws and structures Join Samura|-

Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.

[valen]

Okay, when here comes a Xenos, DSE, Gaians, Bundschuh or Civilian battleships? PM me please when it's done.

Okay when do the Corsairs run out of resources to build more battleships than they have semen? The answer to both is never. Stop trolling about something you'll clueless about. If you'd bother to read a few infocards and posts in this thread before posting this, there is a slight possibility you could've put some more IQ points into your post.

Actually as far as I remember they were removed from sale as per request by the official Blood Dragon faction then.

That is possible, yes. However the NovaPG haven't been around since .84 if I'm correct. So this is as good as time as any to see where do we go from here.

I'd rather remove that ship altogether and grant the ]bd[ a pair of stolen/salvaged/whatever SRP Kusari battleships to avoid any discussion like the current one.

Please no. The Blood Dragons do have the ability to maintain several capital ships. I said maintain because I hold they're unable to produce more at this moment.

The Royal Guard that formed the Blood Dragons escaped Kusari in ships of unknown type (Kusari lore is full of holes), so there is a slight possibility they could have a 500 year old Kusari battleship (but what good would that do inRP). They perhaps did, or still do, have the plans, but the Togo is nothing alike the Kusari Sumo, because years of similar but different cultural, political and military development had an affect on its design.

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[Salt]

Yeah, we made a fake Togo, a shell with half-assed guns and no crew. It was an automated chassis boasting Wild signals, to confuse the BD into thinking a real Togo was attacking them.

Then, when the BD Togo attacked the fake one, the Iseijin scanned it fully and let the fake Togo burn.

This resulted in the BD thinking the Togo threat was gone, and the Iseijin had drawn a Togo out into the open to scan it and learn how to make one.

(bandit)

Ooooohhhh.


Shmart that was!

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[hribek]

It should be for sale though, but there shouldn't be too many of them? Now how does one achieve that?
3 of them above NT didn't look quite right.

Maybe there should be NPC bombers in certain areas. If you check how many complaints there are about Gallic NPCs, I think it would work.

Anyway, people will always want what they don't/can't have.

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[Lunaphase]

Considering the ship is stats wise almost as bad as the zephyr, and a normal KNF bs would wipe the floor with one, id say it would be fine to do so. Their stats pretty much ensure it being used as an RP vessal since its both weak, undergunned, and a large ship, compared to things with equal armor and firepower.

A way to limit them could easily be giving them ZOI restrictions in the ID, such as a line stating that battleships may only move in kusari and sigma 13, perhaps.

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[Backo]

All I know is Dusty said that in 4.86 if your faction makes a certain ship you won't need a SRP... Be it a Spyglass, Togo, Scylla or whatnot.

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[Zelot]

When can I have an FA battleship to fight off those BD battleships? Hell or even a cruiser? If you are going to give certain unlawful factions caps because the head of the faction used to be an admin and got a stupid ship into the game, you should allow all factions to use the big caps.

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