' Wrote:Now, it certainly ain't up to me as to whether the Zoners will grant the Cylons the neutrality and Freeport access they've claimed. That'd be up to the Council as a body. And Dab, do I need to remind you that you're the "guard of the Zoners" only in Theta and 74? If you want to vote on the matter in Council regarding their access to other Zoner properties, then feel free to make a motion and do so.
For one, I never said anything about their right to dock on ANY Zoner stations, or use Zoner equipment, in Theta or outside, so stop flaunting your non-existant power as the maker of the council. Your not the chairmen, and you have no basis for yor argument, because I never brought up a discussion about the topic. More, this incident happened in Theta, where you have no influence whatsoever, nor do you have any right to comment about what goes on in there.
I commented that they claim to be neutral, but attacked AW, who were wearing Zoner tags, on sight. They have apologized, and offer a neutral standing (which I'm accepting btw). Now butt out about matters that have nothing to do with you.
Also, just to make this clear; You are not the council chairmen, thats Drake, so stop acting like you are. If there is to be something said about what I said, it should come from Drake, not you.
And Bulldog is exactly right about what he said. We all know its exactly what you would have done.
I told you all before, keep it nice. If you can't be constructive in your criticism then don't butt in here. I will shut this thread down if it spirals any further.
I dealt with these guys in game...told them to lose the 'kill all' attitude. I, for one, will not say who can and can't play here. Neither should any of you.
My mantra, as always, if you've got a personal problem with someone....take it to them privately.
You guys can not go around killing pepole in "RP" reasons with that ID,it's like haveing a Nomad ID but with a other name....Please take in considerations all of these comments ,especially the admin's.Try to reach into RP rules,respect factions and talk to admins about agreeing the new clan/guild or whatever it is.Good luck out there.
' Wrote:I just want them to thrive...untill BSG is dead.
actually, use the marauder exclusively, hang out in magellan, and alpha.
and wipe the non fl factions out.
Well...this doesn't really need a comment.
However, I will ask u to think about, why are so many people. so eager to engineer and join non-FL factions? I believe there's nothing more to blame,than the original Freelancer. Though marvelous game in its own right, combining never before seen aspects of FRP/RPG and sim/shooter games, freelancers original story is at best, non too imaginative deja-vu, with references to historical conflicts and sociological/political constitution of modern world history (which was essentially one of the major drawbacks of its predecessor The StarLancer). Alas the same too narrow visioned references were applied even to the basic FL ship design. This resulted in most ships being non too appealing, making them seem more of a modern art statues than space fairing vessels. I mean, c'mon be fair: kusari fighters with fish fins? Bretonian fighters lookin like giant roaches (Sir Reginald Mitchell, creator of the beautiful Spitfire must be turning in his grave at the insult of bretonian fighters design). The only thing appealing besides excellent gameplay in singleplayer FL, was the subtle introduction of NOMAD as a hiden allien menace. But in Disco RP they'r excluded, while NPCs are far too underpowered to pose any alternative to PVP. All those given reasons were to blame for a rather speedy demise of original FL and I believe, success of Discovery. Introducing new systems and new beautiful ships (e.g. Viper, Marauder, Raven's Talon, Battlestar etc..), it gave us a chance to re-live FL this time in a much better looking and more imaginative environment. So why be once again so narrow visioned as the original FL was, and stop there? Why not introduce few non FL factions? If RPed well, they could only be beneficial to the game play and the whole disco community.
(I do emphasize the fact "IF RPed well")
Are CYLONS/BSG really all that incorporable into Disco world compared to, say, some "MANGA style stories having anti-superheroes that have titanium/tungsten bones and can kill with thoughts standing 18m away"?
All I know, once I'v seen a picture of Vipers escorting a battlestar, I knew I wanted to play Disco. To be completely honest, IMG eagles just wouldn't have the appeal.
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' Wrote:However, I will ask u to think about, why are so many people. so eager to engineer and join non-FL factions?
Fanboys.
And I don't see the possible future-history of Freelancer to be boring. Similarities between real world history isn't a bad thing... Mankind is constantly repeating the same mistakes.
Most sci-fi universes have their own histories (which often don't even include Earth) which make them completely incompatible with Freelancer.
There are enough unique RP possibilities in Freelancer that we don't need to be taking stuff from other games/movies/books/TV shows. That isn't unique and interesting RP.
Like I said before, we have the BSG, so there's no good reason to disallow the Cylons. I'm more in favor of getting rid of both, but that isn't going to happen.
Tell me, when do the Jedi arrive? I'm thinking a large group of them could have fled the Empire in a hyperspace transport... When they arrived in Sirius, their hyperdrive died and they don't have the materials to repair it. Now they're Zoners. [/sarcasm]
This is getting out of hand; there seems to be a split between "yay" and "nay". I think every conceivable argument has been presented, and all that remains to be done is flame. I say let them stay, and if it works out, good for them. If not, oh well.
Reading this tread makes me feel all warm and cosy, so welcome to our little world. You must understand that the more established players here are trying to protect what they treasure, which in particular is a stronger weighting of RP over PvP. I think a lot of the sheep-like comments are rude and unwanted, but in their defence it shows how passionate the players are when it comes to defending their ideals. It matters to them, even if a few lack the eloquence to express this courteously.
I for one feel that the reason we place guns on our ships is too shoot things and would prefer a more liberal attitude to combat. Good luck with your faction - it will need some tweaking to survive, but I think you understand this.
"Tell me, when do the Jedi arrive? I'm thinking a large group of them could have fled the Empire in a hyperspace transport... When they arrived in Sirius, their hyperdrive died and they don't have the materials to repair it. Now they're Zoners."
Well I can't say for sure about Jedi, though most of u prefer using their fighter (Raven's Talon). But it seems we already have "The Sith". How else would u categorize a 14years old child/mass murderer/fighterpilot galore/kills with invisible force 18m away person? And the mighty yet somewhat psychotic Phantoms aren't far off themselves. So is "naming names" the only issue here?
Don't really know if original FL universe really provides a bundle of opportunity to RP, but I myself never wanted to play main cheff of the Synth-Food. Fact that there'r many choices, doesn't necessarily make any of them appealing.
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' Wrote:Don't really know if original FL universe really provides a bundle of opportunity to RP, but I myself never wanted to play main cheff of the Synth-Food. Fact that there'r many choices, doesn't necessarily make any of them appealing.
Then why not go and play a mod that removes everything that is "freelancer".
*Sigh* Discovery has in the description somewhere... That it is the FREELANCER universe, just expanded, it keeps the "flavour" of Freelancer but still adding some new things, if you haven't noticed, the Phantoms don't come on every day and blow stuff up from dawn till dusk, they COULD, but they don't, that's why they have their NPC faction and base. The reason that people are so hostile to having new "Kill them ******* and their mothers". Also, the Phantoms RP lots...
I don't mind the idea of having the Cylon faction, just, not "kill every thing" and not " kill BSG because their faction originated from BSG", try having a Freelancer-related reason/ excuse to kill BSG..
Starbutt, we aren't saying you have to join an existing faction, maybe just not IMPORT stuff in straight from another game, TV program, whatever else, without editing it a little, and, Synth-Foods doesn't only have the main chef job open, I hear they have openings for an escort pilot, transport pilots, you don't have to RP as "Mr John, who has no background, just made so that there isn't an X insted of his name" , make an interesting back story...! Family problems, weird conditions, whatever!
Maybe you should say that IMG ruined your home by over mining with no safety precautions, the survivors realised that their day was over, and they built the Cylons to avenge them, by killing every stinking IMG member alive.
Also, I BEG of you to not use the Marauder... I fought two of those things, I managed to hit the hull of that thing a HELL of a lot of times, it just went straight through.. Blowing off the guns is all well and good but it takes quite a bit longer than blowing holes in the hull...
I'm trying to be constructive, its just ideas that I'm giving out, you don't have to adopt them to the letter, just basic ideas to try to give you inspiration...
Well, now that that's done, I can go and take the dishes out of the dish washer... Oh the joy...