4.87 Ship balance reports (Ships / Weapons)

[Mercarryn]

Jus as Duvelske did with the economy, let's put all reports about possible balance issues about ships and weapons in here.

I suggest to use the same template like Saronsen uses for the bug reports:

Code:

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[color=#FFFF33]SHIP / WEAPON NAME[/color]
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Geb Order carrier
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Well, funny as I was one of those that complained that Geb sucked in .86, but now?,Geb transformed into a battleship which can still mount the Cruise disruptor? Besides, isn't the hull stated on info card not a bit too much for it?

Right now it seems to be broken to me.

Fixed.

[belarusich]

Players with 5 heavies on LAC instead of 2.

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[razorviper]

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Order Battleship 'Osiris'
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We all know the new osiris has two heavy slots now.
Bug: No matter how many times I try to put a cerb on the second heavy slot, the next time I log in, the second heavy slot is always empty and one primary is unmounted.

Edit: Its a bug and not a balance issue. Re-posting in the bug report section

[Sava]

Touketsu still has VHF turning stats.

[Pavel]

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Touketsu
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It still has not only VHF turning stats, but also powercore, hence it's incapable to fire bomber torpedoes.


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Collector
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It's imposible to launch, "Cannot launch without the powercore", or something like that.


Tested in SP.

[t0l]

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Zapper Turrets
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Turrets continue to fire even when the arc doesnt let the turret shoot at the enemy.

Aet: By design. All ray type weapons have this quirk due to them having force_ori set (which is required for rays).

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[Pavel]

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Falchion
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Partially still has LF stats, small cargo hold, powercore, class 8 shield max, such things.

[JayDee Kasane]

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Coalition capitaliship turrets
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They do not rotate upwards, which makes firing on Storm and Typhoon up/down impossible and firing Battleship secondaries on Osiris to the left/right or some heavies to different directions also impossible.

Aet: This is a bug, not a balance issue. All capital turrets should have a 90 dgr upwards motion range on their barrels.

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[SeaFalcon]

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Bounty Hunter Gunboat - Orca
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Considering the vessel is about 3 times the size of the old Orca model. Has worse arcs than the old Orca model and apparently the same stats. Which would mean it would be rendered useless in any kind of combat situation, since it can't really fire back.

Since the vessel is somewhat like Bretonian sized gunboat, I would suggest you balance the stats towards that with a more powerful forward gun that the Orca has currently.

[Nightingale]

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Gitano
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Now, I have stated this before in another bug-report thread, but this might be a more proper thread for it.

The Gitano retains it's original powercore despite an apparant jump in weapon power, meaning that it's unable to fire even optimal weapons continously for more than three seconds, unlike ordinary LF's.

Aet: Try re-buying it. Existing Gitanos would not get their current inventory updated. Ship power core is set on ship purchase time (as hidden equipment). If a new Gitano has this problem, post in bugs.