Salvaged weapons

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Here's my idea.

Some of you remember my RP-related "I don't get it" regarding why a Junker can't use Justices or a Freelancer flying a surplus Defender can't use Usiels if they killed the owner and took it from them. The rule didn't make sense from an RP standpoint, and exists to prevent PvP abuse. The other argument was it encouraged people to OoRP dock.

The solution:

Make NPCs and wrecks drop special "Salvaged" weapons. These weapons will do 10% less damage, and have 20% less maximum HP than regular guns, due to the damage they took from the explosion, the lack of proper replacement parts, etc. This will allow Junkers, Freelancers, and Mercenaries more roleplaying opportunities. These weapons will do less damage than those bought on bases, but as they are "salvaged", it proves the player did not acquire the weapons via an OoRP dock, but rather by finding them on a wreck or killing an NPC for it. The lowered damage will effectively prevent PvP abuse, as the weapons will be substandard for their weapons class.

This will not result in any extra work for the Admins, as I will personally be going through and creating these special "salvaged" weapons.

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HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.

[Dab]

No, just because;

We would need a second version of every-single-weapon. Not only will that be extremely time consuming for you to make, but for Igiss to put in the mod. No matter how thorough you are, he still must inspect eachone and fix if need be. Plus it would make the .ini files impossibly long, and hard to edit for future Discovery versions.

If this could be done as a server-side upgrade, that wouldn't be too bad, as the added weapons need only be on the server's mod version.

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[mjolnir]

Agree with Dab....

uhh did that actually happen?... scary

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Such small thinkers...

Can you not see the benefits? There are huge positives for roleplaying, and at virtually no cost to anybody except myself. Yes it will be a heck of a lot of work, but it's lightyears beyond worth it.

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HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.

[Dopamino]

No, you don't get it. After you've made them all, Igiss still has to put them into the mod and test them all. It's a LOT of work to do it for every gun in the game.

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I mostly lurk around Media Center these days.

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Alright, fine.

My idea has been shot out of the sky (despite being the best idea since the toaster).

How then, are we supposed to prove a weapon we have is salvaged rather than purchased at an OoRP dock? I'm trying to stop a whole mess of unnecessary sanctions here.

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HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.

[Knucklehead]

Another consideration why it wouldn't work is the way NPC weapon drops are handled. Using so called salvage weapons on wrecks would be simple enough, but the NPC weapons are usually mounted and randomly selected for dropping. This would mean that the NPCs would be using these weapons, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

As an alternative to Salvage weapons, you could simply never repair the weapons you pick up. That would simulate not having replacement parts for the weapons.

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It's official, I have too few ships now...

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Another consideration why it wouldn't work is the way NPC weapon drops are handled. Using so called salvage weapons on wrecks would be simple enough, but the NPC weapons are usually mounted and randomly selected for dropping. This would mean that the NPCs would be using these weapons, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

As an alternative to Salvage weapons, you could simply never repair the weapons you pick up. That would simulate not having replacement parts for the weapons.

Yeah, except that gets a fellow sanctioned.

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HISPANIANS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF HER PEOPLE
A Plea to the Outcasts (PG)
CHARACTERS:
LR-I.Got.Nothin', LR-Empty.Pockets, and LR-Dead.End = "Lash" McDaggit of the Liberty Rogues.
SMUG~Eat.My.Exhaust = Jane Terraman and Bob McAdams, smugglers of the Liberty Rogues.
[H]Cj.Martino.Perez = Martino Perez, self-declared Counselor of the Hispanians.
AVATAR MADE BY SPIRIT! THE AWESOME.

[Panzer]

My op:

There are some bunches, that may pretty much use what they want / can get.

I seriously believe, that terrorists can get pretty much ANYTHING.

Ok, like this: Think of the Polish guerillas of WW2. They at first would use whatever remained after the Septamber Campaign 1939. There was still pleny of it and ammo was in majority common with German (7.92 carbine ammo or 9 mm pistol ammo for example). As the war progressed, guns were getting used up and were getting replaced by purchased(read - bribed German quatermasters/guards)/stolen German weapons. The British SOE dropped a few PIATs, STEN guns and others too. Later, the Russians came and flooded the theatre with the omnipresent PPsH SMGs and Mosin rifles. Plus what could be cobbled up from scrap - grenades, some barely relaible pistols and an SMG based upon the STEN. So as you can see, the guarillas had guns from pretty much every corner of Europe.

Or the Chinese Nationalists - They really had everything, including German panzers!

So let's not get excited about who can use what. Cuz from a practical and historical point of view, I think a Xeno's RP ship could as well be a Guardian with a third Xeno, third Liberty and third Rogue weapons.

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[Manni]

There is no sense to use these salvaged weapons, they only would deal less damage than the standart guns of the faction.

I would be for more variety in guns. An example:
Best gun for the corsairs is the salamanca mk2
Maybe some new guns, maybe less damage but higher refire rate or higher damage with less refire rate.
This would improve RP.

And i dont see a reason to use outcast or bounty hunter weapons on my titan.
I also can use weapons of my allies :sleep:

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