I don't mean to cause offense to D9 here but why on earth do we need a nomad faction in a house thats already populated by everyone. I don't mean to discourage you guys, I know you done alot to gain whatever it is that you gained, but seriously - these ideas drag this community in the wrong direction. We don't need libs we need gallians and rheinlanders. Theres no more "Order" to fight in liberty, not by a long run - if alaska had the characterstics of the previous version, then that would make more sense - but nomad in liberty, with no nomads, no actuall enemy to fight - you might as well be LPI - cuz the only people you'll find in liberty are mostly pirates. If you are a liberty based nomads, you have no Nomad enemy to fight with ( and I do mean enemy as in > either bunters or order or liberty navy ) - you have no reason to stay there, and because you have no reason to stay there, you should go to places where you have intrest, and in that case - you might as well change your tags to Wilde.
All I see from D9 is a potential forum-lancing rp, nothing more.
(08-27-2014, 10:36 AM)Snak3 Wrote: Nomad enemies are humans.
D9 presents itself much like the wilde, who have slightly different agendas ( im no expert ) but I do know that nomads in contrast shoot everything on sight, where as the infectees tend to be more reasonable and rather dare i say.. friendly to humans, so long it serves their purpose. Now, if they are going anti cloakwise and start shooting everyone, then why would they enjoy the benefit of the house - they clearly cant do that kind of stuff in plain sight, otherwise - it wouldn't make sense for them to have a base in liberty ( unless the devs give them their own station ) - so, if they are secretly nomads but then again want to be cousy with the house, they can't go "war on everyone". So, the only benefit from the faction is to go through a long chain of forum-rp. Wildes are recognised as nomads so they have no relation with the houses, Aoi were once friendly with kusari, but not anymore - D9 is going to play like the good guys while remaining infectees, so who are they going to shoot then? Pirates and rheinlanders - so were back to square one, you might as well be LPI or Liberty navy. Now I understand that theres some thrill in being a secrent nomad cult inside the house, but what rp are we to expect from them in-game, apart from doing a few agreements with the local factions - and trying to get a grip in the government - which brings me back to forum-rp. Anyway, what do I know right?
Oh and by no means that Im saying they should stop, I don't like telling people what they can or what they can't do, if they find it fun then that's what matters, but I think factions should look at the bigger picture here, beyond their own ambitions and consider the well-being of the coomunity as a whole. Yeah its outlandish, but that's how I look at things.
Just like what Garret said. Aoi and Das Wilde merged into one faction and absolved D9 into its fold (by brutal force). It never truly made sense to me to keep them all as separate factions when in reality there were just one faction with subgroups distinctive in style to blend into crowd and match certain stereotypical traits of the particular environments (much like houses themselves are stereotypical ethnicity-based and that's the style of the game).
But keep your tinfoil hats on. This gotta be conspir[A]cy, bi[A]s, dr[A]ma and r[A]ge - the Four Horsemen of Discopoc[A]lypse, so says the prophet. The end is nigh!
It kinda demotivates the other unofficial factions that have been trying for officialdom and the ones that are denied, though they had decent presence both in the forums as well as in game.
The seperate forum still would mark them as a standalone official faction. Since both Aoi and Wilde, as far as I remember, had to go through the 6 month faction creation period to get their official status. It would be appropriate to classify them asa sub group under one forum. Might sound childish and silly, but hey, that is what you get to hear from people who work their rear out for months to get their name on the official factions forum.
I'll ask simple: what do you want, mori? Just none of the abstract stuff that nobody can make happen. There ain't mana from heavens to feed everyone. You dragged those formerly-three factions so what do you want of it? But first tell me how is it or each of them separately are responsible for any other unofficial factions not making it.
(08-27-2014, 11:10 AM)Moriarty. Wrote: It would be appropriate to classify them asa sub group under one forum.
And that they were at first for a few days. And it was ugly, awful nested mess. Then some, including myself, had suggested them to be moved into category of their own on the forums to improve navigation throughout an overly complicated category of the forum to make things easier to find and access, the admins said okay and that was it. I don't know man, if forum optimization gives you this much "trouble" then I shiver to wonder (no, actually I don't) how do you cope with much more tangible changes that actually do directly affect your gameplay...
On the subject of D9's officialdom - No one's stopping anyone from merging their unofficial group with an already existing official faction to skip the whole officialdom process. I personally fail to see the special treatment here. It's people's own egos stopping them from forfeiting their imaginary seats of power (i.e. faction 1iC position) that stops this from happening more often.
On the subject of the current status of Wild groups - As stated above, they've all merged into one general Wild faction, and now each subgroup represents the Wild influence and presence in their respective house, rather than a separate infected entity of the region.
On the subject of lack of Aoi activity - The guys changed their tag a couple of days ago, which reset the activity tracker back to 00:00:00. That means their activity level is not correctly displayed on the tracker at the moment. Give it a month and it should be back to normal.
On the subject of the subforums - If the eyesoar of having all the the Wild wings jammed under the same subforum satisfies whatever unreasonable notion it is that's making people complain in this thread about it, sure why not. I personally don't see the big deal though. It was set up the way it was set up for the sake of accessibility and due to the fact that it literally makes no difference at all (and yet people complain about it, which is rather sad).
(08-27-2014, 11:48 AM)Treewyrm Wrote: I'll ask simple: what do you want, mori? Just none of the abstract stuff that nobody can make happen. There ain't mana from heavens to feed everyone. You dragged those formerly-three factions so what do you want of it? But first tell me how is it or each of them separately are responsible for any other unofficial factions not making it.
At first I was under the misconception that they were awarded officialdom out of nowhere, but since you guys have kindly mentioned the reasons, fine.
And also, I wanted to know about this because, officialdom is not awarded just like that, out of nowhere. Only under that impression I did raise this question. Well, things like "just simple forum optimisations make me mad" and such are not needed because, I never knew that it was a forum modification in the first place. It would help if things were announced beforehand. Not like my opinion matters lol
Whatever, kill it off before someone throws some more insults under misconceptions. Can be locked.
Lucky them I guess. Everyone else has to do the tedious three months Q.Q
I'd love to see the process get shrunk to one month, I find the additional two months complete necessary upon judging a faction contributions to the server to deem whether it should be official or not. All that can be done within a month.