I´m trying to find reason why. Except "I want to skip all the grinding which building and maintaining PoB requires and also danger it will be destroyed as core 1 or core 2 simply by paying some credits and writing few posts".
But maybe some specific example can show there could be justification for it...
A POB that exists for the sake of supplying other factions with advanced technology. I guess a limitation would be that stuff could only be sold to other factions, not individuals? Of course, one of the reasons why I suggested this IS because the supply would be a big hassle (It'd exist within the Omicrons after all) but the whole point is that it's meant to function like an NPC station.
(10-05-2014, 06:34 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A POB that exists for the sake of supplying other factions with advanced technology. I guess a limitation would be that stuff could only be sold to other factions, not individuals? Of course, one of the reasons why I suggested this IS because the supply would be a big hassle (It'd exist within the Omicrons after all) but the whole point is that it's meant to function like an NPC station.
We have PoBs which have this purpose, for example OSI´s Nichols Trade Center, also Blackpool Production Facility was build like this type of station I think. Question is - why should anybody get benefit to skip the building and then have ability to gain some profit while others had to "work" a lot to get the same thing (and then maintain it to keep their bases alive).
(10-05-2014, 06:34 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A POB that exists for the sake of supplying other factions with advanced technology. I guess a limitation would be that stuff could only be sold to other factions, not individuals? Of course, one of the reasons why I suggested this IS because the supply would be a big hassle (It'd exist within the Omicrons after all) but the whole point is that it's meant to function like an NPC station.
We have PoBs which have this purpose, for example OSI´s Nichols Trade Center, also Blackpool Production Facility was build like this type of station I think. Question is - why should anybody get benefit to skip the building and then have ability to gain some profit while others had to "work" a lot to get the same thing (and then maintain it to keep their bases alive).
That is why it is called a SRP...I have seen some dev/admin quote that anything (well, most of them) can be SRP'ed if they have sufficient RP to back it. If someone grinds for a PoB, it is their desire, will to do so. No one is stopping them from stopping to supply that, or something. They wanted it, hence why they are doing it. They didn't wanted to/know about/ care about SRP'ing it or asking the admins/devs if they can do so.
This is just a question if this can be done or not. And I believe I have given the answer in the previous para. Also, ask it straight to the admins, Lyth. I have a weird feeling that this might just turn into a flame thread :|
To put it simply, It is possible. Admins can create player bases without the usual stuff. I'll give you an Idea - CR pob at Omicron-lost. Good chance to work.
It can be done by the admins but the main question should stay - if they will do it. I mean, you spare a lot of work with writing down some posts. I would more like, to post 50 transmissions of a half back-ed RP Story rather then carrying 1 million commodities to get the base up to core 3.
But guess what, the commodities required to build a base - gain faction/player activity. As you are in need to carry them hours - or you have to get enough people together to get the work done by SRPing the stuff, all this activity would be gone and made off-the-desk on someones desktop and posted on the forums. There would be most likely no inGame RP about the base - it would grow up from nothing. It would be really strange to have bases coming out from nothing and nowhere.. I mean at the moment, I see bases growing. After months of work and core request they managed to get to core 3.
I believe, the interest in building bases is only there - because of the work that is combined with them. Requesting a base without having the time or fun on carrying hundred hours goods - should let the base idea.
Bases are needed to be supplied daily, if you want to make cash from them - you have to build Docking Modules, Cloaks, JDs or do you want to SRP them too?
Then everything we do on the server, except PVP would run over the forum, this isn't what we want. People that build bases, can look into space and say "hey man, that took me now 400 hours of work, and 4 months for this darn base... I mean.. people are trading ore and I got something like that, that is just awesome." Then someone pops up, with 50 forum posts, pays 500 mil and got his core 4 base.
Those other people, that put hard work & real life time into their own bases, would be sad and feel no worth anymore in their bases. A base would loose again more worth and the activity would decrease - I mean, why we should care about bases anymore? Why we should defend ours anymore if you can pay 500 million and SRP it?
Please, never add bases as SRP stuff. IF you are going to do that, give people that worked hard for their bases an advantage. However, I believe grand-fathered bases should've got the Core 5 Upgrade for free by admins - do you know why? Because those bases existed since the beginning of the implementation of this FLHook plugin, those ones proven responsibility already a long time ago, and their base owners showed competence to manage them & gained enough activity and / or Roleplay to GET those blueprints. It's sad that admins didn't considered this.
Those base owners, are carrying FWO / RA since over 2 years now, every day. And they didn't even got a blueprint for all their work, no just nothing.
Give them the right to SRP a Core 5 request - the grandfathered bases. This would be my suggestion. They are around since over 2 years now? The most of them, do those owners need more proof? And if yes, how? They shown more then anyone else - that they're constructive RPing members of the community.
And when those people, get the blueprints to core 5, they won't decrease in activity. They would focus on other things, like building more equipment and using their new gained freetime other in FL then only carrying silently hours long RA... Even though, the half of those people would work on FWO SRP so this gets another boost of activity.
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