A few questions about Kusari Exiles ID.

[Corile]

Pilot carrying this unlawful ID^[1] is a member of the Kusari Exiles, who:

- Can demand contraband and levy fines^[2] within their Zone of Influence, and attack if ships refuse to comply.
- Can attack unlawfuls, quasi-lawfuls and ships which belong to a house or organisation considered hostile by the Kusari Exiles within their Zone of Influence.
- Can defend allied or neutral lawful ships and bases within their Zone of Influence.
- Can escort traders within their Zone of Influence.
- Can attack unlawful and quasi-lawful ships in proximity to a trade lane^[3].
- Cannot participate in unlawful actions except as described above.
- Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo.

Zone of Influence: Taus, Bretonia, Kyushu
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Kusari Destroyer

[1] - If Kusari Exiles are unlawful, can they not ally with BPA (whose ID says they cannot ally with any unlawfuls) when in Bretonia or IMG in Taus?

[2] - What is considered contraband in Kusari Exiles' ZoI?

[3] - Does this apply outside of their ZoI?

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[Shinju]

1) They can ally...

2) Cardamine, Nox, Slaves, Hypno bands

3) NOPE

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[Corile]

1) They can ally...

What I rather meant is can BPA/IMG ally with Exiles.

3) NOPE

So what exactly is the point of that line? KuEx can already attack unlawfuls and quasi-lawfuls in their ZoI anyway.

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[Lythrilux]

Cori is right aside from number 3. Number 3 does apply outside of their ZoI. It would only apply in their ZoI if the line specifically mentions that.

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[Corile]

Cori is right aside from number 3. Number 3 does apply outside of their ZoI. It would only apply in their ZoI if the line specifically mentions that.

So what does "in the proximity of a trade lane" mean? 5K? 10K? Also, can I engage someone by a trade lane, but if they run away from the lane can I keep shooting them?

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[Lythrilux]

Proximity is really vague and this is probably the result of poor ID wording. The colonial ID has, or used to have a similar line but the range was specifically mentioned at 10k(?). If you're going to make use of the line, it's probably best to use it within that parameter.

If they run away from the lane you can keep shooting them, as it's still part of the engagement.

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[SpaceTime]

[1] - If Kusari Exiles are unlawful, can they not ally with BPA (whose ID says they cannot ally with any unlawfuls) when in Bretonia or IMG in Taus?

[2] - What is considered contraband in Kusari Exiles' ZoI?

[3] - Does this apply outside of their ZoI?

1) Well, technically they can. But BPA or IMG would be under an ID violation since they cannot ally with Kusari Exiles as it is an unlawful ID.

2) Nothing. No official faction to create official Kusari Exiles laws. And you cannot consider some commodities as contraband by yourself because that can be exploited very easily.

3) Unless it specifies it can be enforced outside of ZoI, so the answer is no.


To summarize, the ID lines are badly written. Like it happens with all the unlawful IDs.

[Corile]

Because Lyth's answer gives me more opportunities, I'll go by that and will scream at him if I get sanctioned.

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[Fluffyball]

- Can attack unlawful and quasi-lawful ships in proximity to a trade lane[3].

This is why I got confused by several IDs, since in some of them there are lines clearly stating "inside ZOI", and then we have line like this one.

So, I think, if all other lines specifies "must be inside ZOI" and there's line without that addendum, the line applies everywhere. Even if it is however safer to assume that it should be in ZOI, yet KuEx in Cortez for example encountering baddie next to the TL is still technically allowed to fulfill the line - as he does not break his ID ruleset per se in the form as they are written.

Why I have based my opinion on that? Let's see here:

- Can attack unlawfuls, quasi-lawfuls and ships which belong to a house or organisation considered hostile by the Kusari Exiles within their Zone of Influence.

And we have this:

- Can attack unlawful and quasi-lawful ships in proximity to a trade lane.

Those aren't one, but two different and distinct lines, second of which does not forbid to fulfill it outside ZOI. One line doesn't and cannot override the other line and both lines are to be treated separately.

While the second line seems to be senseless, I found out why the second line was added. The second line was added to resolve scenarios, in which Kusari Exiles are, for example, flying in Cortez, Magellan or inside Liberty or even inside Kusari and they encounter criminals, who lurk on disabled TL. That's why I believe this one particular line was added, to give Kusari Exiles chance to act first and not to wait idly for "2million-or-dai" offer. I think Rishiri is also applicable system for that particular line about TL.

We shouldn't forget they are, after all, still lawful authority above all the exile thing - not mere terrorists or pirates. They are still a disciplined military whose goal is to protect traders against pirates.

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[Corile]

words

congratulation
you've just repeated what I said in the third post of this thread.

I think Rishiri is also applicable system for that particular line about TL.

Rishiri, for some reason, is in Exiles' zone of influence. Not like anyone would care since that system is pretty much dead.

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