This is a one time warning to all of you Bounty Hunters, Mercs, Freelancers, and any others after the
easy cash.
If you take a bounty that is not posted on the forums, you are open to a PvP abuse sanction, with no
comebacks. That is it, if it not posted, it does not exist ...
This is getting ridiculous. OK, the previous "no engaging without a bit of roleplaying", sure, that's fine. No skin off my back. But this? So now Bounty Hunters and Mercs can't kill anyone unless there's a forum bounty on them? Do you have any idea how underused the bounty forum is at the moment? And don't say "this'll improve forum bounty RP"
That ain't the point, most merc work is spontaneous. So if I'm flying around in a merc, and someone says "Hey merc, I'll pay you 4 mill to help in this fight", the merc would get sanctioned for PVP abuse for joining? What kinda bullcrap is that?
I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on this, these rules are starting to be too much...
I agree there is no reason That this should be done. As you said the work of Mercs, and Freelancers is often random and/or spontaneous. With this rule in place that takes away from alot of the joy of being a merc/FL. It is like a bidding war for the merc's help, one side offers 2mil the other offers 4, and that is what being a merc is about, making money on the fly. With this in place then everyone would either have to log out to come troll the forums or leave their ship sitting in space to come troll the forums.
Now I can see the case for the BHG. There is a big enough problem with PvP whorage that this can be justified. However, whats to stop the LN from putting a 500K Bounty on the head of any PC Criminal in NY? It is within the ruling, but inherently against it.
Final thoughts, for:
Merc - Bad
Freelancer - Bad
BH - understandable but easily abused and rather counter productive if it is abused.
Yeah this Rule is a bit of pointless... It does nothing against BHG attacking Gamma with their caps when they are not taking bounties, however it stops them from taking bounties that are not posted on the forums... How does this help anyone?
I purpose this however... BHG, Mercs and other Freelancers
can engage in self defense or if a "screenshot of bounty agreement should be made ingame" (wrote up by Sungi) or posted on the forums.
Only in these two cases should they engage. The forum version is obvius, so the ingame version should be aswell, here are some guidelines...
In system chat preferably so the Hunted knows he's being hunted
Nice and clear preferably with chat time on, a screen that places the bounty before engaging.
This rule in my view only makes it harder for bounty collectors to RP correctly and it does nothing to restrain them from "killing just for fun of it"... The objective should be that every BHG, merc and freelancer combat revolves around solid RP involving a bounty that finishes in their pocket....
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The sentiment behind this is allright - i have been a victim of some of these "bounties" before.... where it was clearly just bollocks and there was no such thing...
However you raise a valid point where it comes to ingame arrangements - while i dont think it is that hard to make a forum post - would not a screen shot of an in game arrangement be enough? If such an arrangement is made....
I think there should be a little room left for spontaneity - if its done in RP and not abused
While I can understand that this is to stop the BH using "you have a bounty" excuse to PVP abuse,
I also agree that the wording of this new rule is not good.
Perhaps if you were to say, "photographic evidence of an ingame bounty
placed OR the forums..." this would allow players to still use it legitimately
ingame without the sanction potential of normal bounty use.
Also the ruling is pretty weird considering there are open forum bounties
from the Outcasts on lawfuls, and open forum bounties on the Liberty criminals
(and further I believe) from teh LPI / Liberty someone lawfuls.
Might I suggest a change in wording or withdrawel of the ruling?
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' Wrote:While I can understand that this is to stop the BH using "you have a bounty" excuse to PVP abuse,
I also agree that the wording of this new rule is not good.
Perhaps if you were to say, "photographic evidence of an ingame bounty
placed OR the forums..." this would allow players to still use it legitimately
ingame without the sanction potential of normal bounty use.
Also the ruling is pretty weird considering there are open forum bounties
from the Outcasts on lawfuls, and open forum bounties on the Liberty criminals
(and further I believe) from teh LPI / Liberty someone lawfuls.
Might I suggest a change in wording or withdrawel of the ruling?
I don't believe this rule stops BHs from attacking Gamma/Alpha. BH tag/id/npc faction allows random attacks on pirates.
This rule only serves to hamper your average merc from doing a job, in order to try and curb 'pvpabuse'
While I agree with the sentiment behind this ruling, I can see no way that this can be workable.
It appears that from now on no merc, bounty hunter etc, can assist any group/individual that requests assistance, unless that request is posted on the forums?
Sorry, admins, but this seems poorly thought out, and unreasonably draconian.
I'm joining the line of folks requesting clarification on this one.
Heh, this reminds me of when i had the BHS-Fenrir..
I had a few occasions where people made a complaint towards me about not engaging a pirate. The reasoning was simply this:
The broad-range Liberty Pirate / Smuggler Bounty, only includes fighter to gunboat in ships. the BHS-Fenrir was a Cruiser. So, with my ship being excluded from those bounties posted, i refused to engage, unless someone agreed to a small bounty (often no more than 1m). Every time, unfortunately, this was refused and i only saw 2-3 battles the entire time i had the cruiser.
Basically, people (the lawfuls, pirates didnt have a poblem with it...) didnt like it that i was a Bounty Hunter, but wouldnt go around shooting my guns off at every pirate i saw.