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(01-31-2017, 08:38 PM)sindroms Wrote: The reason why I suggested it as a form of punishment ... was because I thought that ... it was -reversible-. It still would have been an extremely harsh sanction, but it was carried out with that in mind - that there was a way to restore it.
The fact that anyone thought applying a sanction so harsh that it would necessarily have to be reversed was an appropriate reaction to anything anyone could possibly do in Discovery speaks volumes about the judgment of the people involved.
(01-31-2017, 08:55 PM)Petitioner Wrote: ...
The fact that anyone thought applying a sanction so harsh that it would necessarily have to be reversed was an appropriate reaction to anything anyone could possibly do in Discovery speaks volumes about the judgment of the people involved.
That actually wasn't the bad here, as it's demonstrating it's not just talks, but there actually -is- a button to make you disappear from the forums for good.
The bad here is that it was done without consulting others before in the belief it could be reversed, which obviously isn't the case.
So not pressing that button is the issue, but pressing it irresponsibly.
(01-31-2017, 05:57 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: Get the snapshot DB of the forum that is 1 week old. Start exporting only posts made by Shiki then import those DB entries into the current DB of the running forum. Of course that would probably only be possible if IDs in the database tables didn't get overwritten or something after the purge. I'm not an expert here though, never did any MyBB administrating.
I don't do DB snapshots anymore as I now do the backups at instance level.
Basically I'd have to set up a whole new instance with duplicated volumes just to retrieve a few posts.
Alley, Shiki has been a member - or at least their forum account has existed - since May 19th, 2015. That's one year, eight months, and twelve days of time they have spent making roleplay, participating discussions, and having leaving their mark - for better or worse - on the community.
Yes, it's annoying. Yes, it's one person. Yes, I would be absolutely livid if I had to do it too. But a day of your time cannot possibly be more valuable than over a year and a half of somebody's personal history.
Set up the instance, retrieve the posts, and give Spazzy whatever punishment the admin team deems reasonable for this colossal SNAFU. There isn't any other responsible option you can take.
(01-31-2017, 08:55 PM)Petitioner Wrote: ...
The fact that anyone thought applying a sanction so harsh that it would necessarily have to be reversed was an appropriate reaction to anything anyone could possibly do in Discovery speaks volumes about the judgment of the people involved.
That actually wasn't the bad here, as it's demonstrating it's not just talks, but there actually -is- a button to make you disappear from the forums for good.
The bad here is that it was done without consulting others before in the belief it could be reversed, which obviously isn't the case.
So not pressing that button is the issue, but pressing it irresponsibly.
Have to agree. The button itself isn't the issue here, just how it was used.
No need to throw everyone else involved under the bus there, it was still my fault for even suggesting it in the first place. Still, I hope you aren't simply dismissing the context that lead up to that action itself.
When we already had to monitor a highly problematic thread and had to invisible 5 posts before the two warnings were given, you tend to drop a warning that involves no compromises. Here is your darvin's award, it would say, come claim it. So in that case, Shiki's posts with faction accounts of all things, really seemed as a ''you wouldn't dare'' sort of statement.
(01-31-2017, 08:58 PM)Durandal Wrote: Alley, Shiki has been a member - or at least their forum account has existed - since May 19th, 2015. That's one year, eight months, and twelve days of time they have spent making roleplay, participating discussions, and having leaving their mark - for better or worse - on the community.
Yes, and all of that they decided to put on the table and knowingly risk for a simple gag, even after two warnings were put into the thread prior to their post. The member is still expected to take some sort of accountability as well.
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(01-31-2017, 09:05 PM)sindroms Wrote: No need to throw everyone else involved under the bus there, it was still my fault for even suggesting it in the first place. Still, I hope you aren't simply dismissing the context that lead up to that action itself.
When we already had to monitor a highly problematic thread and had to invisible 5 posts before the two warnings were given, you tend to drop a warning that involves no compromises. Here is your darvin's award, it would say, come claim it. So in that case, Shiki's posts with faction accounts of all things, really seemed as a ''you wouldn't dare'' sort of statement.
Have to give you this. From the context known to me playing such a card (with the reversing in mind as you had) was justified. Just shit it all didn't go as expected.
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(01-31-2017, 09:05 PM)sindroms Wrote: No need to throw everyone else involved under the bus there, it was still my fault for even suggesting it in the first place. Still, I hope you aren't simply dismissing the context that lead up to that action itself.
When we already had to monitor a highly problematic thread and had to invisible 5 posts before the two warnings were given, you tend to drop a warning that involves no compromises. Here is your darvin's award, it would say, come claim it. So in that case, Shiki's posts with faction accounts of all things, really seemed as a ''you wouldn't dare'' sort of statement.
There is a wealth of incredibly harsh and incredibly creative ways to punish someone in this community. The fact that you went for the most nuclear of nuclear options right off the bat is not excusable.
(01-31-2017, 09:05 PM)sindroms Wrote: Yes, and all of that they decided to put on the table and knowingly risk for a simple gag, even after two warnings were put into the thread prior to their post. The member is still expected to take some sort of accountability as well.
(01-31-2017, 09:23 PM)Petitioner Wrote: There is a wealth of incredibly harsh and incredibly creative ways to punish someone in this community. The fact that you went for the most nuclear of nuclear options right off the bat is not excusable.
You two both need to stop posting. You're in no position to talk about accountability or even really defend yourself Spazzy, and you need to stop calling for a witch hunt Karen.
Let the admins hold the admins accountable. This time, I strongly expect they will.
(01-31-2017, 09:05 PM)sindroms Wrote: When we already had to monitor a highly problematic thread and had to invisible 5 posts before the two warnings were given, you tend to drop a warning that involves no compromises. Here is your darvin's award, it would say, come claim it. So in that case, Shiki's posts with faction accounts of all things, really seemed as a ''you wouldn't dare'' sort of statement.
It's not like it matters now, but I read only OP post and then moved to the page 2 to reply.