(12-09-2017, 06:45 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: They weren't around all day. You really should stop argue on behalf of Sharky and Cleve if you weren't around. The thing is, it is really, really easy to, you know, do things and, you know, not hang around somewhere cloaked for an entire hour not responding to people who evidently were aware of the Oracles being present. If you don't have anything to do but doing nothing while cloaked pretending not to farm onlinetime, log off? Your faction shouldn't get rewarded with keeping officialdom for not being available for interaction while screenshotting things without context to throw mud back.
I think you don't know what the subject of disscussion is + you don't seem to be aware what actually happened, although you were as you said, a witness.
We cloaked to avoid being shot. If you want to become a cry baby and say the same illogical phrase over and over like a 3 year old kid, I suggest you to check again what happened. In case you can't...:
We are not allowed to fight unless COMPLETELY necessary, thus, with Custodi and Core on us, we had to cloak. I'm not sure you understand but we are not a pew pew faction as you desire.
Most of the time, neither Corsairs nor Core were around. Core was around for less than five minutes with a Battleship. Custodi were around for a moment first, then switched to anti-capital loadouts to fight the 72th|Sarissa, then remained around for a few minutes. There were like 30 minutes of that hour with nobody around. Of course you logged off the moment I started here in the thread, so there wasn't more evidence of you showing how you can't use things within reasonable parameters. Instead you start to insult. Way to go.
Yes, that footage started later. I didn't expect you guys to really just sit there and do nothing.
(12-09-2017, 07:01 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Most of the time, neither Corsairs nor Core were around. Core was around for less than five minutes with a Battleship. Custodi were around for a moment first, then switched to anti-capital loadouts to fight the 72th|Sarissa, then remained around for a few minutes. There were like 30 minutes of that hour with nobody around. Of course you logged off the moment I started here in the thread, so there wasn't more evidence of you showing how you can't use things within reasonable parameters. Instead you start to insult. Way to go.
Yes, that footage started later. I didn't expect you guys to really just sit there and do nothing.
A little bird whispered us that you asked Custodi to kill us, oorply. Custodi was at 20-17km away from us, from what I was also informed. Also, if you had a but of logic in your words, I would have given you my approval that we were wrong. However, do you think, for ONE second, that we would have stayed uncloaked and exposed when full-hostile entities are around? Even more, that those entities don't give a damn about NFZ?
By the way, I hope you posted the whole video where you literally powergamed/metagamed.
I didn't ask Custodi to kill you. Stop making up crap. I didn't powergame (you have obviously no idea what powergaming is) and I didn't metagame. Again, Sharky, there were like more than 30 minutes of you having been able to uncloak without harm and more than an hour of time for you to, you know, interact with people who were talking to you.
(12-09-2017, 07:13 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: I didn't ask Custodi to kill you. Stop making up crap. I didn't powergame (you have obviously no idea what powergaming is) and I didn't metagame. Again, Sharky, there were like more than 30 minutes of you having been able to uncloak without harm and more than an hour of time for you to, you know, interact with people who were talking to you.
While we were cloaked, no one was interacting with us.
You did not metagame? Since when does your char know Oracles are..."nomad supporters". Hm?
Furthermore, you showed hostility to us when hired a freelancer to nuke us.
Making up crap? Naaaah, not yet.
Also I am not forced to cloak/uncloak by your desire, if you don't like to hear a cloak then you can aswell not try to dig your hole every single time in this thread.
I am not screwing around when talking about such subjects.
(12-09-2017, 07:13 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: I didn't ask Custodi to kill you. Stop making up crap. I didn't powergame (you have obviously no idea what powergaming is) and I didn't metagame. Again, Sharky, there were like more than 30 minutes of you having been able to uncloak without harm and more than an hour of time for you to, you know, interact with people who were talking to you.
So let me get this right Sombra, you all were there, talking about the Oracles, sitting in ships ready to shoot the players and are whining about them not uncloaking to speak with you? Also as far as I'm aware, using the player list to see if they left or not IS metagaming regardless if you did it for ill intent or not.
You still have yet to explain to us how you saw them via the recording, their system trashtalking, how you tracked the source to know it was the oracles, to explain how radio-transmissions even show electrical identification over a name tag or heck, how about you explain why you sat there for 48 minutes looking between the player list and back, saying you didn't metagame when your little friend clearly misinformed you that it was not Cleve on either of the ships.
So either way you look at it Sombra, you let Zyl sit there, yet ironically come and record when Sharky and another person you clearly hate is there. Then you beat around the bush with several posts and say its all about them being there cloaked. I have yet to see how you knew the same of the ships, what Oracles do or anything really that would result in posting bounty claims on both.
Again, your recording shows you speaking of the Oracles first and nothing else, so not only have you bypassed several question that were asked, this all seems to stem from that they were silent and cloaked, neither do you have any idea what they were doing, if they were RPing in group chat or knowing if they were moving about either, no you just posted two bounties without really thinking to much that they were RPing in PM, in group, watching people interact...none of that ever came to mind now did it?
It is public knowledge Oracles are nomad-supporters. They are known by CoF as conspicious nomad-supporters and highly controversial seen within CoF. That's neither powergaming nor metagaming. Furthermore you can literally hire anyone for any reason to kill anyone. Making up crap? Yes, you did, until you prove otherwise and that's evidence you'd need to make up. I'm friends with literally one person of the Custodi and that person was playing Warframe all day.
Maybe, just maybe, try to make this personal, insulting and based on lies every single time you respond and just accept that you were farming onlinetime while not a single time responding to people who have been talking with and about you.
(12-09-2017, 07:17 PM)Goliath Wrote: You did not metagame? Since when does your char know Oracles are..."nomad supporters". Hm?
I've seen Oracles openly talk about Nomads outside of Freeport 11, once even telling the history of the Vagrants - which I'm pretty sure is metagaming. In fact, I think it has been three times that I've witnessed Oracles talking about Nomads in an extremely positive light outside of Freeport 11, one time even declaring open support when a K'Hara BS uncloaked.
(12-09-2017, 07:21 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: It is public knowledge Oracles are nomad-supporters. They are known by CoF as conspicious nomad-supporters and highly controversial seen within CoF. That's neither powergaming nor metagaming. Furthermore you can literally hire anyone for any reason to kill anyone. Making up crap? Yes, you did, until you prove otherwise and that's evidence you'd need to make up. I'm friends with literally one person of the Custodi and that person was playing Warframe all day.
Maybe, just maybe, try to make this personal, insulting and based on lies every single time you respond and just accept that you were farming onlinetime while not a single time responding to people who have been talking with and about you.
2) There is no online-time-farming. We remained silent and cloaked for the sole purpose not to end up shot. After you left, I uncloaked as I already suspected you.
3) I am not sure that Oracles are nomad-supporters publicaly. That thing is inRPly kept to secret. So you still metagamed.