Stick or bounce?

[Sombs]

The most recent drama left the most bitter taste than ever before. In terms of extremeness and controversity, this is comparable to A Heavy Decision. The difference is that people didn't get banned this time, but ended up with so much disappointment, frustration and anger that they left on their own volition. Kudos to them, as they didn't try to split the community even further, opposing to some others who took the opportunity to exploit the inconveniences to spread lies, blabber the same foundationless accusations around they read from their buttbuddies or generally have been spineless and unthankful enragement children the moment the greens were no longer be required to be nice to.

I've joined Discovery about three years ago, shortly before A Heavy Decision happened. A pretty tough time for a newcomer to try and root in, as "the good guys" were busy trying to do what they considered "the right thing to do" while the other half were soured up and didn't see the necessity to support new players either, facing the proverbial Final Nail. The community took a big hit back then. Some people left since then, some people returned with only meager motivation, some others have stayed with similarly meager motivation. There have been some minor crisises in the meantime, but the post-christmas drama that, in a sense, boiled down between Alley and Durandal was the first step towards An Extreme Decision.

Before you mentally mark this thread as just another reaction to this Extreme Decision, I'll make one thing clear: I'm not interested in pointing fingers at certain entities. I'm not interested in slinging mud. We have had enough of that at the end of 825, and 826 already started with enough bullcrap we really didn't need. However, I will say I am frustrated and disappointed, and other than many people of the community, I've had enough insight from all three perspectives - the perspective of the greens, the perspective of the yellows and the perspective of myself as neutral player. Some rather dense people will probably question the latter, but as a matter of fact, this community is so small that everyone here knows most people around and is friends with some devs and some (former) admins at the same time. As someone who has been active consecutively for three years here, I'm friends with a majority of the active community, and the same can be said about most people here. So fuck off with that bias-mentality for a moment.

The disappointment originates from how this escalated. The frustration from what is the result. To try to keep this short and civil, without finger pointing, I realized one thing once again: None of the involved parties are saints, especially not the ones who try to use non-involved players as an asset to fight in this drama. Alley and Durandal did enough damage with the propaganda war about that damn document on the public discord announcement channel that smeared muddy crap all over herself and the devs who so eagerly created the document to share it with selected people. These things should have been solved internally. The players are here to play the game and have fun. They are not soldiers in a propaganda war. Every time crap like this happens, you can easily see how the intelligence of otherwise, in private settings, clever people deteriorates into nothingness. "My friend said you're bad so I say you're bad, too. I don't need facts to dislike people!" I am disappointed that the announcement thread blames the admins without explaining why they did it, painting them as cartoon villains. I'm disappointed that we're currently facing a management that only obtained full control by booting the only other control instance out. While I don't think I need to be concerned about my own "well-being" in this community, I don't think a new management has a reputable start when they sort of couped themselves to the leading position. The biggest disappointment, however, is the fact that all of this could have been avoided by cooperating instead of worrying about who should have a say in what matters. This is not how a community works.

As I said, I'm not concerned about my own well-being here, as nothing of this affects me or will affect me. I haven't been part of any staff team and have never aimed for it, simply because I know the duties and responsibilities already from real life and my former job at STNE. What affects me is the result of the drama.

This is just one guy who wrote that in the Discovery Main Discord, a few moments after Inferno telling Durandal in which body opening he can stick the new GM role. This Extreme Decision doesn't help the community, the playerbase. People are demotivated, considering to leave or have left, for valid reasons, even if you don't understand or relate to it. They have their reasons. They want to stay away from the drama, don't accept the roughly taken leadership, distrust the people in charge more than the previous ones. Whatever reasons they have, whenever an established community member leaves, it rips a big hole into the structure. It takes one faction leader to leave to disencourage the members of that faction to log or do anything for that faction anymore. It's a spiral. "My best friend left the game, nobody can replace them." It frustrates me to see how people consider not solving issues the civilized way just to take the power to patch the damn game for another controversial update, simply risking it, toying with the players despite one should have known better from experience. It disappoints me about what priority people have, frustrates me to see that people I wanted to play with leave, to see how they can't be replaced by anyone. Whatever people built up over years is getting lost over avoidable power battles.

At this point, I feel rather unmotivated. A few of my RP posts are gone, others have lost hours of trading of a weekend, but that's really just a tiny addition. I've considered to just bounce, simply judging by how many people have told me they would either leave at once or leave over time or just log even less. Despite me still finding enough interactions and RP sources whenver I log, Sirius feels emptier and smaller, not only because of the annoying condensing-player-interaction-by-removing-game-content mentality which already infuriated me quite often with the current dev agenda, but because the players leave. I don't care about the numbers, but knowing I can fly around in certain systems and know I win the battle should it occur because certain players aren't around anymore takes away the tense feeling I usually have when I log, especially when playing blind.

All that being said, I really hope this kindergarten crapslinging ends now. I genuinely hope for the best of Discovery under the new management, despite the extreme controversial methods and background that lead to all this. I don't think this is the end of Discovery. Things will somehow work out, but I doubt the next weeks and maybe months will be any easier in terms of structural integrity. And I highly doubt that the people who were so eager to pick a side without having looked at stuff from both sides, just because they are friends or hope for benefits by siding, will just simply calm down again. I've seen absolutely disgusting things being posted on the public discord. Many people opposing the devs for various reasons, a bunch of people opposing the former admins, slandering them mindlessly despite them having done a crapton of stuff they should have been thankful for. After all, someone had to process all the spiteful reports, right?

All I hope for is that people consider staying, ignoring whatever distrust they have in the devs and focus on just playing the game with the people they like. And what I hope for is that things can get solved with more consideration and less polarization. We are players, not assets. Anyone trying to use players as soldiers should ask themselves whether they really want to play Hitler in a 15 year old game with a tiny community that just wants fun.

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[Shelco]

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[SnakThree]

Stick

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[Vexykin]

All's good, I don't care about the Drama, I'm just here to play the game.

If the majority of the staff saw the necessity, I guess they had all the time to consider their current actions, and I hope it was a good decision for our community, so I guess in time we shall see.
And in the mean time, I'll be flying in space and take one step at a time to see how this new staff implementation really works.

#NoBIAS

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[Thunderer]

The Byzantine Empire fell because of the constant civil wars.

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[Backo]

But what if I want to play Franco?

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[Victor Steiner]

Byzantium is inaccurate, this seems more like the Holy Roman Empire to be honest.

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[Bannorn]

Gotta do what you gotta do, but I'll just say this: If everyone leaves, nothing gets better either.

[LaWey]

Ye, this kindegarden was just dissapointing, and mostly because of this mud. Its like, when you considered somebody as adults and see how they sit to crap right in centre of street, my feeling were like that. This propaganda was absolutely disgusting and no needed.