Y'all need to stop whinging so damn much. If I were a new or returning player looking to (re-)join the community, I'd take one look at threads like these and turn around again.
Paddy (or whoever) filed a report. That report will eventually be processed. No point making a public forum post about it, just ask the admins in PM or on Discord. Any complaints towards Darius and the rest of BretGov can be handled the same way.
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1 week isn't long enough tbh especially when you consider people have lives
if bret gov doesn't want pobs, dont approve them in the first place honestly? aside from WPs and having more dock points, don't think the pobs are that irritating
as for the request, like others mentioned, you will have to inevitably wait for other staff to comment.
LOL yeah we all know that some players don't have a real life or a very "soft" and can be online every day, not only reading every thing on the forum but also playing .. right!!! and yes .. many players when they leave explain the reason and it is situations, like how they are treated here by certain type of players, that make many good player to leave or not to give a single F. but like i said is strange bretonia destroy some bases, and then change it's own rules to justify, and then take over other bases, even worse decay,and also in it zone of influence, with server staff help.
of course devtonia rules and we will never got a good explanation about it, but i'm folling this because it is really interesting, and s i bet most of the players ever wonder, how a complain, it is treated, what are all procedures that complain go thru until a final decision i even think there should be a thread explain that. i bet it would be very interesting we all know how it all works.
(01-11-2023, 06:44 PM)Lusitano Wrote: i bet most of the players ever wonder, how a complain, it is treated, what are all procedures that complain go thru until a final decision i even think there should be a thread explain that. i bet it would be very interesting we all know how it all works.
I've always assumed the processes were simple ones. Someone posts a complaint about something, the admins/moderators read the post made, weigh in their own thoughts , a vote happens, majority rules.
Thats pretty much how it's done in any other game/guild that I have been a mod/guild managment of has done it. Sometimes these discussions can take a few weeks or upto 2 months depending on the topic.
Cheers. I am rather a "Newcomer" compared to you folks. May I have a word too.
I feel the loss of a pob can hurt aspecially when it is that old. I feel like that decaying is a rather normal thing these days as some owners seem to take the crews off and once in a while put them back on to ensure they don't loose FOW. That seems a little bit OORP like powergaming to me but who cares. Having not maintained the pob could simply be a personal reason in rl and we all have those which keep us from playing once in a while. Imagine you have mental problems or you simply take a vactaion etc.... Looking at those kind of situations the pob decays and you probably don't have time nore the ability to check the forum right?!
What I consider very problematic in this case are statements which should never happen to keep the game to be living. See a lot of people are leaving and there is a reason. The reason is that people follow a leader and the leader gets litteraly what he wants. We can see this not only in rl but most of the time in games. Aspecially in Freelancer.
"Likewise, if certain individuals prefer to instigate admins to step in and push for unwanted measures, we can just as much respond in an equal measure by completely limiting how many and when bases get built."
Basically that is a threat. Not only such a statement hurts the game but a lot more. No offense to the one writing it. But I feel both sides. The one who is upset (It's just a game shit happens even if it took you months to build the pobs) and the ones who think they did what they could've.
Where do I want to get with this. Short answer. Ask yourself. How would I feel about the destruction if someone would do it with my base and did you really do your best to prevent it from destruction. If you can answer those easily than you might want to check with a neutral mind.
I personally feel like that each base whenever maintained properly has a forum page with the idividual who leads the base. It is always fair to go and message that person personally on top and tell them about what's going on as the person might get a notification via email for sure that way?!
That's all thank you and hope to have a good RP ingame. Don't kill each others in the forum like this. It's a game after all. Maybe make new friends like me and work something out on discord or something The community is too small to hate each other!
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(01-11-2023, 07:01 PM)Couden Wrote:
(01-11-2023, 06:42 PM)Kauket Wrote: 1 week isn't long enough tbh especially when you consider people have lives
Pretty much enough even with this. Send 2 words I'll repair it, give me time > a nearly month ignore then whine
you could also have basic courtesy and pm people on discord to ask if they're around cause not everyone lurks on forums either
and yea ignored when its convenient for them, go figure, but who cares. let it be a forewarning about building in bretonia then. (is it even the most efficient spot for building mats anymore anyway? gallia might be better)
It is imperative to recognize that the indiscriminate destruction of bases, solely on the basis of their decay rates, is detrimental to the overall gameplay experience. Not only does it violate the legal registration guidelines established by the Bretonian Laws, but it also perpetuates a harmful attitude towards the presence of POBs within the game. The mere fact that one may hold a negative opinion towards POBs does not justify neglecting their existence or disregarding their legal standing. This type of behavior is not only unjustified, but it also undermines the integrity of the game and the community as a whole.
It is crucial to understand that the imposition of new laws without proper communication and sufficient time for players to adjust is highly detrimental to the gaming experience. The failure to consider the impact of these sudden changes on the community, and the lack of transparency in the decision-making process, can only serve to further erode player engagement in the game.
Furthermore, given that the current state of the game is one of decline, it is of paramount importance that all efforts are made to foster a sense of community, rather than implementing policies that risk alienating players further. The imposition of new laws without proper consultation and consideration for their effects, only serves to exacerbate the already precarious state of the game, and undermines the efforts of those who are striving to revitalize it.
It is also important to have open communication with the player base and to gain understanding of their perspective, and to consider the potential consequences of new laws that the game could have on them. Clear communication and an adequate period of transition will enable players to adapt to the new regulations in a more effective and efficient manner.
Rather than resorting to such drastic measures, it would be far more beneficial to offer aid and support to bases that are struggling, and to work with the players to find solutions that are mutually beneficial. You should have maintained transparency and fairness, and only take action after investigating and determining that there is a valid reason to do so. Moreover, providing support and aid to bases that are struggling is a more constructive approach, rather than destroying them directly, which is highly detrimental to the gaming experience, and disrespectful to the players who have invested time, effort and resources into building their base as per permissions from the government.
This appears to be a situation where there is a inconsistency between words or actions and professed beliefs or values. Nothing new here in Disco.