(07-08-2023, 07:25 PM)Kauket Wrote: Why Pirate ID and not Order ID or even Coalition ID?
Part of that is to reflect the cell-like structure of the organization, as well as accepting the restrictions of the Pirate ID in exchange for not having any ZOI restrictions aside from attacking combat ships only outside of House Space.
In terms of roleplay, we feel that the Coalition would not fit thematically, and restrict membership only to characters from that area.
The Pirate ID allows a certain level of freedom, which we felt would be fitting. Edit: To add we intend to have these different cells actually be represented in roleplay, serving the same goal but in very different ways, as well as style of behavior and communication.
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Pirate ID can't attack combat ships outside house space, only pirate then attack if they fail the demand, btw, which was why I was curious.
Order has cells, and Coalition has a long range of ideology as well as groups of interest, and I guess you wouldn't want to be tied to diplomacy though.
(07-08-2023, 07:34 PM)Kauket Wrote: Pirate ID can't attack combat ships outside house space, only pirate then attack if they fail the demand, btw, which was why I was curious.
Order has cells, and Coalition has a long range of ideology as well as groups of interest, and I guess you wouldn't want to be tied to diplomacy though.
Yes, I misspoke, Part of it is indeed not being tied to diplomacy, though with Pirate ID most factions are hostile anyway. While the Order does have cells, they also have a certain thematic that I wouldn't want to take away from the Order with the stuff we're working on.
The faction name and this specific logo/banner come together to create a rather unfortunate and questionable first impression. From a historical perspective. One might look into changing one or the other.
Other than that, sounds interesting. Looking forward to maybe having some encounters with Section 8.
(07-08-2023, 08:10 PM)Toaster Wrote: The faction name and this specific logo/banner come together to create a rather unfortunate and questionable first impression. From a historical perspective. One might look into changing one or the other.
Other than that, sounds interesting. Looking forward to maybe having some encounters with Section 8.
The faction is specifically dedicated to combating cyborgs, cybernetics and things like the Wild, thus it is called the Human Purity Front.
As for the flag, I do not know what you are trying to suggest, it is a unique design that I created together with advice from people, it was not inspired by any real flag, and upon research there are many flags with a white circle in the middle and symbols in the center.
What he refers to is the fact that the name utilized by this group is in many ways similar to that used by neo-nazis, supremacist or otherwise far-right organizations in an attempt to both appeal to a conservative or radical audience and to put up a "front cover" of sorts, if you can call it that, that the group stands for racial or distinctly extremist values.
In addition to this fact, the presence of the Spartan helmet is also similar to iconography used by far-right groups with the same intent mentioned above: of bringing a sense of traditionalism in an otherwise xenophobic environment (aka to make your average Joe attracted to the group via the similarities it has). Besides this, there is also the fact that such iconography used in this specific setting is in many ways similar to the use of the swastika or Norse runes in banners/flags/what-have-you by extremist groups, with yours bring no exception, save for the last part (I most certainly hope).
If there's one solid bit of advice I can give in the most serious of manners, that's this: please change the name and logo immediately.
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