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[Ship Stats] Archon - Does not carry 4800 Ore

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[Ship Stats] Archon - Does not carry 4800 Ore
Offline Hawksmoor
11-19-2024, 06:07 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-19-2024, 06:09 AM by Hawksmoor.)
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Type: Ship Stats
Bug: Archon is not loading 4800 ore

Reproduction Steps:
  • Step 1 Log modular miner Archon ship
  • Step 2 Go to Tau23 and mine Niobium
  • Step 3 Cargo maximum is 2400 instead of 4800 ore

Additional Information: None
Offline Karst
11-19-2024, 07:02 AM,
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Yes, that's how it works. 2400 is already the doubled amount; on other ships, ore takes 2 cargo space per unit. 4800 would be 4x the effective cargo space.

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Offline Hawksmoor
11-19-2024, 07:10 AM,
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(11-19-2024, 07:02 AM)Karst Wrote: Yes, that's how it works. 2400 is already the doubled amount; on other ships, ore takes 2 cargo space per unit. 4800 would be 4x the effective cargo space.

This is what it's supposed to have according to the info.

SPEED

Normal: 80
Boost: 199
Cruise: 399

Cargo

Normal: 2400 Units
Ore: 4800 Units

WEAPONS

1x Battlecriser Main Battery
1x Cruiser Defense
4x Cruiser Standard
2x Cruiser Heavy.
1x Mining Array
1x Cruise Disrupter
1x Counter Measures

SHIELD

Shield Class: Transport Shields

Thrusters

4x Capital Ship Thrusters.

Special Equipment

1x Docking Bay
1x Hyperspace Beacon
Offline Karst
11-19-2024, 07:18 AM,
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The info is a little confusingly written, I guess.
It can carry the equivalent of 4800 cargo units of ore. Because ore takes 2 cargo space, that's 2400 units.

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Offline Hawksmoor
11-19-2024, 01:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-19-2024, 01:30 PM by Hawksmoor.)
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(11-19-2024, 07:18 AM)Karst Wrote: The info is a little confusingly written, I guess.
It can carry the equivalent of 4800 cargo units of ore. Because ore takes 2 cargo space, that's 2400 units.

Your math is wrong and that doesn't make any sense. I'll just wait for confirmation from a dev/admin. I was told there will probably be a hot fix to fix the problem. It can hold 480 chirodebris which is 4800 cargo but not Niobium. It's also an 18 million credit ship that is a pain to build, it better carry 4800 ore or it's worthless.
Offline StellarViss
11-19-2024, 01:53 PM,
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(11-19-2024, 01:27 PM)Hawksmoor Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 07:18 AM)Karst Wrote: The info is a little confusingly written, I guess.
It can carry the equivalent of 4800 cargo units of ore. Because ore takes 2 cargo space, that's 2400 units.

Your math is wrong and that doesn't make any sense. I'll just wait for confirmation from a dev/admin. I was told there will probably be a hot fix to fix the problem. It can hold 480 chirodebris which is 4800 cargo but not Niobium. It's also an 18 million credit ship that is a pain to build, it better carry 4800 ore or it's worthless.

It is a pob built ship the price is whatever the faction or player decide it. Also Karst's math is correct what are you talking about? A regular 5k ship fits 2500 ore on it the Archon fits 2400 of the same ore. And if you refine 2400 ore you get 4800 of the commodity that is probably why it is written like that.
Offline Karst
11-19-2024, 01:54 PM,
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I mean you're welcome to wait for a dev to tell you exactly the same thing lol

It can carry 480 Chirodebris because, like the Hegemon, it has a 0.5 cargo space multiplier on mineables, so Chirodebris takes 5 cargo instead of 10. 2400 / 5 = 480.

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Offline HonourWolf
11-19-2024, 01:59 PM,
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(11-19-2024, 01:27 PM)Hawksmoor Wrote:
(11-19-2024, 07:18 AM)Karst Wrote: The info is a little confusingly written, I guess.
It can carry the equivalent of 4800 cargo units of ore. Because ore takes 2 cargo space, that's 2400 units.

Your math is wrong and that doesn't make any sense. I'll just wait for confirmation from a dev/admin. I was told there will probably be a hot fix to fix the problem. It can hold 480 chirodebris which is 4800 cargo but not Niobium. It's also an 18 million credit ship that is a pain to build, it better carry 4800 ore or it's worthless.

Chirodebris' override is 5 volume on the Hegemon and Archon instead of the original 10.

So yes. 2400 / 5 = 480

Niobium Ore as with other ores are 2 volume and overridden to have 1 volume for Hegemon and Archon (Class 14).

2400 / 1 = ???

If you have a non-class 14 ship with 4800 cargo space that holds Niobium Ore that takes 2 volume.

4800 / 2 = ????

Offline Fab
11-19-2024, 02:02 PM,
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(11-19-2024, 01:27 PM)Hawksmoor Wrote: Your math is wrong and that doesn't make any sense. I'll just wait for confirmation from a dev/admin. I was told there will probably be a hot fix to fix the problem. It can hold 480 chirodebris which is 4800 cargo but not Niobium. It's also an 18 million credit ship that is a pain to build, it better carry 4800 ore or it's worthless.
Ore volume = 2
Archon cargo volume = 2.400
Cargo volume divided by ore volume = 2.400/2 = 1.200 units of ore without bonuses
Heavy mining ship volume bonus on ores: (Ore volume/2) -> 2.400/(2/2) = 2.400 ore, which is 4.800 volume

I hope it makes sense. I believe the infocard believes ores have 1 volume, which in that case, is correct.

Replacing "units" with "volume" would do very well here.

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Offline NOVA-5
11-19-2024, 03:56 PM,
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Non of what anyone is saying makes sense, the Archon does what it says on the tin,
it says cargo 2400, you mine 2400, you trade anything it's 2400,
except Earhart as that's a different ball game & can/does change when the staff feel fit.
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