Salvador.Sanchez. has been sanctioned and banned for:
Quote:3.2 Flaming, threats and insulting (in any form) other members, factions, server administrators in chat, public
or private, is prohibited on server and on forums. RP-related threats are allowed on the server.
Sanction: no less than 14-day ban.
Quote:6.2 Out of Roleplay (OORP):
In-game tag seen before the name must match the ID as closely as possible. It is not allowed to have the
tag not match ID category. For example, it is prohibited to have 'Police' tag and 'Pirate' ID.
Equipment used must match tag and ID as closely as possible. For example, it is not allowed for Corsairs
to use Outcast ships and guns.
All characters using mismatched ID/Ship/Weapon combinations must possess either an Admin granted
Terrorist ID or a Special Operative ID.
All reputations should be in accordance with the faction followed, all enemies must be red, at least during
the course of a player - player combat
6.3 Carrying any unmounted IDs in player ship is prohibited. Transferring or trading IDs is also prohibited.
This rule applies to everyone, including faction leaders and server administrators.
That is your previous one, so a repeat of both offences. Insulting another player, and an insistence in chat
that you will continue to do so out of roleplay to everyone.
Attacking Corsairs immediately after undocking one of their bases, while using one of their ships, with
a Rogue tag. No ID at all on your ship when it was checked.
This all leads us to remove you from the server again.
Fined all credits and guns, banned for 21 days. Sanction notification will be in your hold sir.
Post here when the time is up please.
That is your previous one, so a repeat of both offences. Insulting another player, and an insistence in chat
that you will continue to do so out of roleplay to everyone.
Attacking Corsairs immediately after undocking one of their bases, while using one of their ships, with
a Rogue tag. No ID at all on your ship when it was checked.
This all leads us to remove you from the server again.
Fined all credits and guns, banned for 21 days. Sanction notification will be in your hold sir.
Post here when the time is up please.
This, seriously, is a load of bull****. I did insult someone, yes, after he insulted me being pathetic. I did not have a rogue tag, my IFF was glitched as usually the case is on that server, while I because of that used the droprep command 2 times already (and also logging out after doing so). I had a Freelancer ID. The only thing I did related to attacking corsairs, were because of an incident yesterday. Me and some others were pirating in Omega 3, at the trade lanes in-between Wilkes Ice Field and Freeport 1. After a long while, 2 OPG member showed up, telling us to piss off because they wanted to pirate there. We declined, as when we tried to pirate at some spot some OPG already where, he said to us 'First come first served'. Maybe not in an exact way, but he made that point clear. After telling this little story to the problem OPGs in O3, they still refused to leave. I didn't mind them at first, but after a while they started commanding us. I told them they were welcome to be there, as long as they should not be dicks. After a while, he apparently got sick of me declining his commands, so he engaged me (while I was a Corsair too). We did dispatch of them, but after a while another OPG showed up near our spot. I cannot recall the exact way that went, because I was at the Omega 5 JH at that point. Switching to another PC now...
Anyway, as the team said they were being engaged by another OPG, which I can recall now, because he liked to engage one of our Freelancer tagged transports without saying so. When he fled, he threatened us being all on the KOS list. We took pleasure with it, and did the same in reverse for all of OPG. In that same evening, 2 more OPGs came to Omega 3. They didn't seem to know anything about the events that took place, which I couldn't care about at that moment. So I explained the whole story I just did to Ripper and Jongleur, and after that engaged them. As not going particularly well, 2 BHGs also joined the fight, siding with me. That round was also won. After that, I went to sleep. Next day (which is today in case you lost the count), I just did the things I usually do: pirate in O3. After some while, a Merc and good friend of mine, Artaire, joined me, in a defensive matter. As expected, Grimly (OPG member) engaged Artaire in the NFZ of Freeport 1, because Artaire had a tizona turret (or multiple). Because of Artaire being my defender, ofcourse I had to engage Grimly, which I did not on sight as I actually thought Grimly was a bit reasonable, seeing as we in, killing us. Just the fact Grimly engaged Artaire because he had some specific weapons, I was done being a Corsair and once pirated together. 3 other OPGs joined was planning to become a BHG, simply to take revenge on those bastards, without having to hear rants like OMG UR ATTACKING UR ALLIES ZOMG NOOB. When I was outside the FP, after being destroyed, I was talking a bit with Artaire, Jongleur who actually reasoned with me, not unlike those other OPGs (note that he was not included in this 4 vs 1 fight), and talking to some BHG, asking around about where to buy ships and stuff. After a while, those OPGs engaged me again, destroying me again. After then still some talking, I headed to delta for a Hunter, who I asked to do some mission for some rep fixing. Before I did so, I bought a Freelancer ID for the time being, which was the for me certain point my IFF started messing up (after I did manage to fix it, I became a Xeno, then Farmer Alliance, then a Lane Hacker which I took pleasure with for the time being, more about that later). So when I enter Gamma, I saw another OPG, BlackBerny of whatever. He said something I did not took attention with, and I said something about him being scared. After he flew further, away from me, some Benitez family member started ranting to me, obviously not scanning me and looking straightforward to my IFF, about why I have a Corsair GB with a rogue ID. HE engaged me, and suddenly mister Berny came up and engaged me too, for the pussy he is, knowing he sucks to much to kill me single handedly, even in a Gunboat. When I died, I respawned in Cadiz base in Omega 5, and decided to screw the BHG too, and went to a Red Hessian, RSC-Gelderland (Cruiser), who I met a few hours ago. But before meeting him, some Merc was doing some stuff at Cadiz (which was just some random merc), while I was just in the Hammen Hole, going to Gelderland. That same benitez scum was then in the system too, ranting to that merc about something he didn't like. So I said in system chat to the merc something in the form of 'Don't worry merc, I got your back', which was the start of our flame fest. After about 10 minutes of ranting to each other, I went to Gelderland. At those few hours ago I met him, he insisted he would not to engage me because of his current high ping, and just hung around the O3 and O7 Jumpholes. Me and Artaire hanged out with him a bit, after going to Omega 3 again, but now back to the current matter. After I met him again, I asked him if he could do some missions with me, to get a bit of a rep with the RH. After doing enough missions so, RH should be neutral and so should the Corsairs. Which was not the case, so I just had to respawn. I asked Gelderland to kill me, so he did. As I respawned from Cadiz base, that Benitez person was the one freaking idiot that engaged me immediately when I undocked. Some other Corsair, which had nothing to do with all the things going on, helped out the benitez crackhead, and got the kill for it, which apperantly was the case Benitez started more insults about a Fighter killing a Gunboat. Gelderland explained the matter why I undocked from Cadiz, with a Rogue ID, and still Benitez continued his awesomeness. That basicaly fits the whole story, after that I did some mission for the RH, got a RH GB and nearly an ID. Thanks for being a bunch of immature dicklovers, OPG and Benitez. Now have fun to read this, if you have the most likely not patience.
saying things about my mother are not insulting?...
when i meet you, you was standing still 10k from o41 hole towards planet crete.with xeno tag and freelancer id on corsair gb. You died, undocked from Cadiz in o5... that was more as 24 hours after you openly stated yourself hostile to corsairs and especialy to OPG. hour later, you undocked from cadiz again...
and typing here that you use another pc... i dont know.
EDIT: only for correction, TBH is not benitez family, but The Brotherhood. And names that you use for me, you know where you can use them.
TTC didnt say he never insulted anyone.But i can plead for him because, i was there on several occasions as my mercenary.And he was attacked first by [OPG] several times-Due to this Salvador did the same back on a few occasions where he could. Also- the whole Rogue IFF thing was when Salvador was trying to change his tag,but an [OPG] member came along as he was undocking- while i was already engaged with an [OPG] Member (cant remember the name) which eventually led to Salvador being attacked by the same member and several others.
Also to mention- Salvador was informing me of how his IFF kept glitching and how he was trying to change it to something more appropriate alongside his actual ID.
// I think, due to earlier events that Salvador was 'picked on' because of some ...misunderstanding that the [OPG] members didnt like-which resulted in hostility and eventually led to this-its a shame to ruin the RP just for a little disagreement
' Wrote:saying things about my mother are not insulting?...
when i meet you, you was standing still 10k from o41 hole towards planet crete.with xeno tag and freelancer id on corsair gb. You died, undocked from Cadiz in o5... that was more as 24 hours after you openly stated yourself hostile to corsairs and especialy to OPG. hour later, you undocked from cadiz again...
and typing here that you use another pc... i dont know.
First of all, I didn't say I did not insulted you, in my first sentence of my first post you can easily see that I DID insult you, with a reason.
Secondly, I was standing still because of BlackBerny passing by, as all explained in the long, first post aswell, makes me consider the moment, and wait looking at what his reaction on my presence was, as I had the manners not to directly engage a Corsair in its home system. Freelancer ID was because I purely just left my Corsair ID behind, and set of to Delta to get myself to a BHG state.
Thirdly, FYI I only stated myself hostile to the OPG, never to corsairs as a whole.
At a final, what do you not know about switching computers, because at the main computer of the 3 computers in my house, are not possesed by me enterily, as only one, slower then the one I was just on, is mine, the other one of my sister?
' Wrote:TTC didnt say he never insulted anyone.But i can plead for him because, i was there on several occasions as my mercenary.And he was attacked first by [OPG] several times-Due to this Salvador did the same back on a few occasions where he could. Also- the whole Rogue IFF thing was when Salvador was trying to change his tag,but an [OPG] member came along as he was undocking- while i was already engaged with an [OPG] Member (cant remember the name) which eventually led to Salvador being attacked by the same member and several others.
Also to mention- Salvador was informing me of how his IFF kept glitching and how he was trying to change it to something more appropriate alongside his actual ID.
// I think, due to earlier events that Salvador was 'picked on' because of some ...misunderstanding that the [OPG] members didnt like-which resulted in hostility and eventually led to this-its a shame to ruin the RP just for a little disagreement
The incident you're talking about may not be related to the reason of that sanction since I didn't heard anyone talking about reporting you today.
The only thing we talked about today was about our next encounter we could have since you didn't left your tizona and Salvador helped a mercenary instead of a corsair he was supposed to be allied with.
I didn't want to get involved to your problems with my mates but you two forced it.
Let me just tell you that our "tizona del cid" are made by corsairs, for corsairs, and we hardly share them, even The Order players have to explain its use in RP while they're supposed to be "allies". That's why I engaged you in Omega 3.
Salvador was engaged and destroyed only because he started to open fire on me.
So, no, the incident today only made you hostile to the OPG and no more able to purchase a tizona (that mean the 2 tizzies mounted on your ship should be removed now or after your next death) as well as to dock in Cadiz, base controled by the OPG.
Now I came a bit out of the report concerns. I will no more interfere since I was not here when the real problems occured.
And on a last note, I would like to know the event I had NO ID, which the only one I could recall was in Dresden, when I forgot to transfer my ID when I bought my Hessian GB, which happens all the damn time I buy a new ship.
And Grimly, he was my mercenary in charge, which possibly is the reason I engaged you.
Also Grimly, the incident to which im refering to is not our incident with the tizonas- but the incidents that occured yesterday/several days before which lead to the whole [OPG] hostility against Salvador.
Im not actually salvadors freind(personally). He was just a guy who employed me as a bit of extra defense after he was destroyed by some outcast's a few times which lead to this-But more to the point.
Salvador may have a big mouth,yes.However the whole ID / IFF thing was not something that he would of done intentionally, and as i said before- he was in the midst of fixing his Faction and ID when you engaged and decided to SS / Report him and I think its totaly unfair that he is also being reported for breaking those other rules
P.S. If anyone forced anything- it was your [OPG] Members for not getting what they wanted.
Quote:OK Folks, I don't know how many times lately I've seen the following words: either "I know Im not
supposed to post here" or "I don't know if Im allowed to post here" in the 'player sanction' threads. Well the
answer is, NO you are not supposed to post there. The following is a list of people who are allowed to post in
a sanction thread.
* Admins
* Player being sanctioned
* Player that reported the violation
* Direct witnesses to the violation
* Faction leader of the player being sanctioned
All other posts will now be deleted on sight. No more "This player has done this to me before, what a jerk."
No more "Good job admins," trust me they dont need or want the accolades. All these posts tend to due is
make somebody angry and nice little flame wars ensue.
On top of that, don't use this thread to throw further insults around or to regale us with tales of what is obviously a depressingly complex and cryptic relationship.
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