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10-05-2009, 05:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-05-2009, 05:19 PM by sindroms.)
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Post here the developer reasons to take away the class 10 shield off our only good VHF and turn it into a class 9, please.


Thank you.
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Offline mjolnir
10-05-2009, 05:25 PM,
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Ask Dab, Connor and Jure in that order.

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10-05-2009, 05:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-05-2009, 05:33 PM by sindroms.)
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Greyhound Mass: 150
Steering: 45000 45000 70000
Angular: 38000 38000 60000
Rotation: 5000 5000 9000
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2

Avenger Mass: 150
Steering: 46000 46000 56000
Angular: 41000 41000 41000
Rotation: 8400 8400 7400
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2

Quote:- Avenger powerplant upgraded.
- Greyhound shield lowered to class 9.

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Offline tansytansey
10-05-2009, 06:41 PM,
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Sindy, I was gonna make this thread <_<

In my opinion, the balance for the Greyhound needs to be redone. The Greyhound was balanced for 4.85 before the new model was added.

The new model is slightly larger than the old Greyhound is, and the shield bubble is considerably larger than the old. The old model used a modified Liberator hitbox with a very good shield bubble. Now the bubble is about three times too large for the ship.

The Greyhound had it's armour nerfed... from 9800 to 8200 in BETA 2. I don't have BETA 1, but I think I recall the Greyhound first being nerfed to 8800 armour. The new Greyhound model wasn't added until Beta 4 or later. I don't see a justification for the Greyhound to be nerfed any more, and I think this act was nothing more than "Oh, the Greyhound is a Heavy Fighter so it should have a class 9 shield."

Well if any one ever thought that then they only read the first part of the info card.
Quote:In actuality the Greyhound is not a Heavy Fighter, despite being classed as such, but more of a hybrid of Heavy and Very Heavy combining some of the elements of both.
Mmh.. missed that part did we?

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Really... if something doesn't get done then I'm gonna make a new Greyhound that fits inside the old one so it's balance is correct <_<

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10-05-2009, 07:08 PM,
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Well, this just completely ruined any chances of my flying my Grey anytime soon. Guess it's gonna be Barghest, Barghest, Barghest.

Please to un-nerf.

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Offline Sprolf
10-05-2009, 07:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-05-2009, 07:15 PM by Sprolf.)
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As Molly Consul, I would also like to note My:

A) Displeasure concerning this situation.
B) Incredulity concerning this situation.
C) Desires of Purpley Lights


That is all.

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Offline Corsair
10-05-2009, 07:20 PM,
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Purple lights?
Now THAT'S what I want to get pirated by.

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Offline schlurbi
10-05-2009, 07:28 PM,
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I think we were actually talking about buffing the Greyhound, then it got nerfed.

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Offline Andrew_Bonesovich
10-05-2009, 07:30 PM,
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Most complains about the Greyhound were actually from BAF, because slow Templars cant hit those damn small things. I wasnt taking part in those complaints (since Im in MR, thus biased :P)

At first, we were trying to make the Greyhound a proper HF, with HF turning, stats, etc., but someone shot it down and gave it just the shield instead. I dont know who exactly decided that, and I wont point at anyone. What is important, the HFized Greyhound worked properly. It wasnt fully tested in the end, but it looked very promising, until someone decided it will get its shield nerfed only. Pirate line is giving the balance team headaches.

I support the idea of making Greyhound normal HF, then making a new proper VHF model. Or making Werewolf useful in normal fights. One problem is, that the line is being used by Mollys and LR, both of them fighting different types of ships, so if you change something because of Bretonia, it starts to suck/be to good, in Liberty.

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Offline schlurbi
10-05-2009, 08:19 PM,
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Eeeh small?

"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"
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