' Wrote:Unless your shooting lollipops or cigarettes, you're making a silly argument. All in all, it doesn't matter how you percieve the name, but how a majority of others do.
The name Suck.on.This is just a poor choice
For example, lemme tell ya a story of Peter "Big Harry" Johnson:
There is nothing in the universe "Big Harry" Johnson loves more than flying around looking for small, vunerable ships with small cockpits, because nothing satisfies him more than grabbing his joystick & jerking it around...His erratic movements makes him a hard target and when he gets close enough to his prey, he loves to pull the trigger & feel his entire ship rumble as white-hot plasma releases from the barrells of his guns and penetrate the cockpit of his victim, & listening to the rewarding screams that his prey gives out over the comm as a result of his efforts.
Now, it's obvious that there is not a single sexual thing in any of that, but there is not a single person who will read it & not think that it's full of sexual connotations.
Sex & violence have always been very closely related after all, & you already know this...if you didn't, than why would you want people to suck your battle razors?
I see your point, I really, really do. However, it is not a silly argument. You want to know why? Firstly, I compare to the abundance of characters that can heavily be perceived as having sexual references, yet they stay untouched. Secondly, Suck On This can be perceived in many, many ways. In fact I can even recall at least two movies seeing people shooting other people, screaming: Suck On This!
Which was basically my main thought. So no, I do not accept this to be offensive enough to not be allowed for usage.
Almost any name can be percieved as sexual to the wrong person. Lets glance for a minute over the Liberty Rogue ship names and see how many our dirty minds can turn into sexual innuendos.
And lets face it, 'Suck.On.This' isn't exactly the worst name that's been put out there.
You have to remember at the same time that children also have more innocent minds than us. In all likelyhood, any minors that did read that name wouldn't have percieved it in a sexual manner. And any minors that did percieve it that way, well then that's something wrong with their heads, not with what's written on a screen.
It sitll stands that this 'Zeltak' upstart should be banned outright for his constant disregard for the children of the server.
Also, while some very valid points are raised as to how this name could possibly be interpreted as something more sinister than it is, you would still have to have a long, hard look at yourself if 'Suck.On.This' was anything but mildly amusing.
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Quote:Sean my good friend, it was funny the first two/three posts. xD
It's not supposed to be funny, you should recieve punishment for some of the other stuff you do, but not this. Also, please do not use my name on the forums.
' Wrote:It sitll stands that this 'Zeltak' upstart should be banned outright for his constant disregard for the children of the server.
Also, while some very valid points are raised as to how this name could possibly be interpreted as something more sinister than it is, you would still have to have a long, hard look at yourself if 'Suck.On.This' was anything but mildly amusing.
Sean my good friend, it was funny the first two/three posts. xD
Funny? You are saying like it is some kind of joke. As a possible parent i need to protect my children from the sexually connected shipnames in Freelancer Discovery Mod, its the most dangerous thing for them.
Ok, I know I am going to get yelled at, and QQ and such, but here goes.
I have spent quite a bit of time in high school classrooms in getting my degree in secondary education, and I have seen this term used quite often. It's often accompanied by a gesture toward the person genitalia. The meaning is most often not sexual in the typical sense of the word. The person is not actually asking the person to suck on the particular body part that is referenced. It's about dominance. It's about the gender and sexual roles that most cultures ascribe to. In this way of thinking, it is an ultimate display of dominance. While the term itself is not really referring to an expected sexual act, it is rooted in an idea of dominance that is sexually based. People using this term in a sports of combat sense are using this to dominate their opponents in the same way prisoners in prisons use rape to dominate other prisoners.
' Wrote:Funny? You are saying like it is some kind of joke.
It is a joke because that's the nature's law: Everything Sean says is bound to be a joke.
Now this +1 fest has run its course. We had some nice arguments here and there though, could we perhaps lock this thread now and wait for the admin reply? Ze thanks!