I would like to say I appreciate your trying to give a more sci-fi feel to the ghosts. I think this is necessary if you plan to continue with them here. However I do agree with n00blet and Sprolf in that this more directly contradicts science, making it fantasy and not sci-fi.
Personally, I dont necessarily think ghosts have no place here. I think they are pushing the envelope a bit, but I dont think that is necessarily a bad thing. I have some other quibbles with some of the other ghost RP, but im not going to bring those up here. I would like to see a scienc-y explanation for them, maybe something having to do with DK technology, like the Donner and Blitz bit, maybe something else, but something other than this dark matter thing, something that doesnt directly contradict currently accepted scientific theories.
I feel the need to remind everyone as Sprolf has that humans don't know everything. A good deal of what we claim to know is only theories. Saying that, try to understand that just because you don't like the ideas behind the science doesn't mean it isn't possible and remember they aren't asking for them to be made canon. I've said it before, you can count the number of official factions that are mod canon on one hand.
Just because you believe one theory doesn't mean another person does. Nomad tech isn't explained in black and white and fully based off human science. Their science is superior. The RP needs work but it is a good foundation to tie the Ghosts with a scientific origin.
Humans don't know everything, our science has been proven wrong in the past and it will be proven wrong in the future.
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' Wrote:Personally, I dont necessarily think ghosts have no place here. I think they are pushing the envelope a bit, but I dont think that is necessarily a bad thing. I have some other quibbles with some of the other ghost RP, but im not going to bring those up here. I would like to see a scienc-y explanation for them, maybe something having to do with DK technology, like the Donner and Blitz bit, maybe something else, but something other than this dark matter thing, something that doesnt directly contradict currently accepted scientific theories.
I got the same comments when I introduced Klingons into Sirius. "Can't be done" and such. Not only did I do it, I have seen a good many other players build such profiles. It can be done, it just needs to be done so convincingly.
Blackwidow, my problem isn't so much a ghost ship but in how it was RP'd before and IMO, it was done poorly at best. The Spagna and the Spiegel approaching Freeport 9 and broadcasting, "we need to collect 1,000 souls." It almost sounds like what the Harvesters would do. Then they would threaten defense forces with, "get within 2k of our ship and we open fire." While those same defense forces would sit still, the Spagna and/or the Spiegel would "creep" closer themselves and instigate a fight. Poor RP if you ask me.
So, as you might guess, my memories of those ships is poor and unless you have done a complete 180 with the RP, this won't get a positive response from me.
Well i think we have our scientific background and a lil more RP for sure. I do want to say one thing about the last paragraph though . ok well, we dont have to Punish and send every soul to the damnation of Hell some are good and dont do anything wrong. just sayin maybe some we can give a second chance like a rebirth?
' Wrote:I got the same comments when I introduced Klingons into Sirius. "Can't be done" and such. Not only did I do it, I have seen a good many other players build such profiles. It can be done, it just needs to be done so convincingly.
Blackwidow, my problem isn't so much a ghost ship but in how it was RP'd before and IMO, it was done poorly at best. The Spagna and the Spiegel approaching Freeport 9 and broadcasting, "we need to collect 1,000 souls." It almost sounds like what the Harvesters would do. Then they would threaten defense forces with, "get within 2k of our ship and we open fire." While those same defense forces would sit still, the Spagna and/or the Spiegel would "creep" closer themselves and instigate a fight. Poor RP if you ask me.
So, as you might guess, my memories of those ships is poor and unless you have done a complete 180 with the RP, this won't get a positive response from me.
I respect your memories of us were bad. And your absolutely right the Spagna, Spiegel acted inappropriately and against the will of the Underworld Lords by killing any and everything that moved even innocent civilians like zoners and so on. I intend for this Lore to be written as if it were written by the Lords of the Underworld in response to the Bad things the Spagna did. The Lore will limit the actions of all Ghost Ships acting on behalf of the underworld, for e.g. Ghost.Ships are Souls of dead Corsair Ships / Pilots therefore Ghosts will only be permitted to collect the souls of Corsair Enemies ie Outcasts etc will be the main targets... All civilians will not be harmed including Zoners, all civilian POIS ie Zoner bases etc will be no go areas for ghosts! We will limit contact with those that are not of interest, and will remain as remote as possible from those who will not be harmed so Etna Base in Omicron Eta will our new home. If you look at my sig youll see Im still flying the Spagna but as punishment for the havoc wreaked on innocent civilians, the spagna has been permanently demoted to Centurion HF. All this will be explained in the LORE, Capships will be restricted to Ghosts, you'll see more Ghost Fighters / Bombers and less Osirises. This I hope will show the Renewed RP Intent of the Ghost.Ship group.
The Underworld Lore will effectively be the Faction Proposal and Law of the Ghost Ship group, Im gonna overhaul everything youll see. What you have seen so far is only a snippet of the Lore in Progress. Have faith Doc:D
We shall be corsairs at home away from home, even going to gamma will be a rare occurrence as there are no souls there to collect, except for instance if gamma is invaded then we would return.
We intend to take the Corsair / Outcast War right to the Outcast Frontdoor, we shall do the jobs other corsairs fear.
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I deleted the repeat post at your request
Now, as a player. Blackwidow, based on your last post, you have a chance then to impress me with some positive change. It'll take time but let's see if you can do it. I will be watching.