4.84: Four houses. Two at war, two approaching war.
4.85: Five houses. Two pairs at war, and this new better-than-everyone-else house pops up.
4.86: Aforeme[/u]ntioned better-than-everyone-else house begins steamrolling everything in its path.
If this was some new Freelancer fanfiction that appeared like this all at once, there would be numerous - and well-justified - cries of "nation of mary sues!"
To say that I object to this would be a massive understatement.
Some Admin are french ? (jokes)
The superioty of gallic have reason... no contact for long time = no ennemies, safe expand, far from nomad, more expand and more grow in power than who have border to survey and secure, and build let some zone neutral.
And a true lesson, when you have neighbour you prefer grown equal of them, not more, not less for your threat still constant.
Gallic have only 2 acces far less cost to survey. have a lot of acces is a higth slow for growth, more carefully.
If other house have been alone she should succes conquest and grown bigger like gallic do.
and, war was prepared, not other who just little figth with their little toys, the treath was unknow, if they had know of gallic they should have change their mind.
But, war like that have an end, because full military econnomie are hard to work and can't work too long.
The lot amount of ships built have been build in a big time, when they will be spend, figthing power of gallic will return to his nominal power, his facturing power, always far less than prepared war.
If gallic take too much system too fast, he need to survey during developement, less ship to figth. And the need can be bigger than can, when gallic econnomy will return to civilian.
the other 4 house still bigger than gallic, 2 or 3 of them can ally.
Gallic is strong because prepared, but after a lot of time they will return to a nominal military power.
And don't will be so strong after all.
Epic fail specialist, rping since 12 years, still make basic error.
Please, don't explain (alleged?) military superiority of Gallia with the 'argument from isolation'. It is even harder to swallow than no explanation. (Your mileage may vary).
Another thought of the Gallia invasion: it is unlike any of the previous wars. Most (all?) of them had some, how to say it, humble beginnings. Small-scale conflict between mining groups. Destruction of some facility. Such things. It is not about realism, it is about story and gradually increasing tension and scale of the conflict. Gallia's invasion begins with already high stakes. Very unusual.
The thing with Gallia's "superiority from isolation" is that since they NEVER had a major war, they were able to slowly stockpile ships, but gave them no experience. This means that it would be a storm of inexperienced, practically limitless pilots, backed by huge capital ships refined over 8 centuries. They would take heavy losses in each battle, but slowly gain experience, and since they are convinced of their superiority, they would never retreat to save lives, and probably would use few tactics beyond "STORM THEM! FOR GALLIA!".
At least, that's my analysis.
Quote:"'Cause, remember: no matter where you go... there you are."
' Wrote:[...], and probably would use few tactics beyond "STORM THEM! FOR GALLIA!".
At least, that's my analysis.
Backed by sufficient population and industrial capacity even "Chaaarge!" can be a viable grand level strategy, and based on what we've seen of Gallia so far they will make it work. Despite myself I'm kinda excited about the prospect of BAF going all "Viva la Resistance!" and wreaking havoc among Gallian supply lines in occupied Bretonia while Rhineland slaughters the Froggies in the Omegas. I'd love the irony.:D
' Wrote:Kusari is not getting invaded because the dev team does not have houses get invaded for the lolz.
Funny how that works.
Why should they get invaded? It's not like their activity is completely dead like Bretonia's was in 4.84, especially if 4.86 opens nifty trade routes between Kusari and the Gallic Core Worlds. There's no pressing need to rewrite the story to throw activity at Kusari, so why not go with what makes strategic sense and presents more storytelling options later on down the road? It's anyone's guess as to whether Kusari will re-enter the war at a later date, and if they do they could feasibly enter on either side. This way has more options, and Bretonia gets super-heroic to boot. Why should we abandon that just because Kusari hasn't had overwhelming military force applied to it since vanilla? Yes, remember when they got invaded by Rheinland, got their asses handed to them (due in no small part to Nomad-based hax), and then started to get invaded by Liberty before the Order wrapped things up in Omicron Major? If Kusari did get invaded, I think you'd probably be yelling at us that we hated Kusari for steamrolling over them for the second time in two decades.
There's one flaw in that plan my friend.
Kusari is completely dead.
Apart from the odd trader/miner floating through every now and then.
Who has the lowest population besides Gallia? Hmm? Who? Kusari that's who.
Go on I dare you to say Kusari has a bigger population than Bretonia.
Which still does not answer my question.
So again I'm having to ask the same damn question, WHY NOT KUSARI?
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR KEEPING KUSARI OUT OF THE WAR?
I mean really, it should be a Bretonian-Kusari alliance in the war with Gallia.
And you know as well as I do, that Kusari won't re-enter the war.
' Wrote:If Kusari did get invaded, I think you'd probably be yelling at us that we hated Kusari for steamrolling over them for the second time in two decades.
That was vanilla storyline.
This is the second successive time that Bretonia has been invaded in this mod,
And might I add, you had Bretonia losing ALL battles the first time round.
Wouldn't of it been better to finish the Bretonia-Kusari war storyline first?
Because it just seems like you've bailed on the Bretonia-Kusari war storyline.
' Wrote:There's one flaw in that plan my friend.
Kusari is completely dead.
Apart from the odd trader/miner floating through every now and then.
Who has the lowest population besides Gallia? Hmm? Who? Kusari that's who.
Go on I dare you to say Kusari has a bigger population than Bretonia.
I'm not going to say that, because it isn't true. Bretonia is more active than Kusari at present. Kusari isn't always this dead, though; there are weeks at a time where there's a decent number of people going through there. This was not so of Bretonia in 4.84.
Actually, just about everywhere outside of the Omegas is pretty dead right now due to the crazy furballs happening there and in Omicron Theta. This is an anomaly. Usually, there's a handful of people in Kusari most days, including members of a few different factions. Iseijin just opened recruitment, too. Kusari is temporarily not as active as it is usually; this is VERY different from the 4.84 situation, where literally not a single person could enter Bretonia across an entire week. Kusari does not "need" to get invaded for activity reasons.
Quote:Which still does not answer my question.
So again I'm having to ask the same damn question, WHY NOT KUSARI?
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR KEEPING KUSARI OUT OF THE WAR?
You can ask the same question as many times as you want. You did get an answer, you just don't like it so you're going to keep asking. Kusari is out of the war because they gain nothing from being in the war at present. Why should they be in the war? Can you answer that?
' Wrote:I mean really, it should be a Bretonian-Kusari alliance in the war with Gallia.
And you know as well as I do, that Kusari won't re-enter the war.
Bretonians hate Kusari right now. They really hate Kusari. Have your home get shelled for a year and see how much you're willing to side with the guys doing it. Kusari doesn't much like Bretonia either, due in no small part to the QCP. Bretonia would rather take on Gallia themselves than accept help from Kusari. You didn't think the Ronin were going to be particularly well-liked by the BAF, did you? Only orders from the higher-ups are going to keep the troops in line... if they can do that, even.
You know nothing about whether Kusari will re-enter the war. You're saying what lets you Q_Q most. It's not set in stone, but I would be surprised if Kusari doesn't re-enter the war... in a year or two. Don't pretend like this is the emperor's new clothes or anything. You're just paranoid and delusional. Get over it already.
' Wrote:I'm not going to say that, because it isn't true. Bretonia is more active than Kusari at present. Kusari isn't always this dead, though; there are weeks at a time where there's a decent number of people going through there. This was not so of Bretonia in 4.84.
Yes, well come on really, this isn't 4.84 is it?
So really? Why are you focusing on 4.84?
Why Bretonia and not Kusari?
The vibes I'm getting from you, is that you are basing your ideas on 4.84.
That just is not right.
So answer the question relevant to 4.85 please.
' Wrote:Actually, just about everywhere outside of the Omegas is pretty dead right now due to the crazy furballs happening there and in Omicron Theta. This is an anomaly. Usually, there's a handful of people in Kusari most days, including members of a few different factions. Iseijin just opened recruitment, too. Kusari is temporarily not as active as it is usually; this is VERY different from the 4.84 situation, where literally not a single person could enter Bretonia across an entire week. Kusari does not "need" to get invaded for activity reasons.
Yes, I will admit there's a handful there but that's it.
The only time I go to Kusari is to pirate some miners who are heading to New Berlin.
Other then that, it's a few mediocre pirates and traders.
Seriously I invite you to join me going through Kusari.
Just to show you.
Will you take me up on that?
' Wrote:You can ask the same question as many times as you want. You did get an answer, you just don't like it so you're going to keep asking. Kusari is out of the war because they gain nothing from being in the war at present. Why should they be in the war? Can you answer that?
Bretonians hate Kusari right now. They really hate Kusari. Have your home get shelled for a year and see how much you're willing to side with the guys doing it. Kusari doesn't much like Bretonia either, due in no small part to the QCP. Bretonia would rather take on Gallia themselves than accept help from Kusari. You didn't think the Ronin were going to be particularly well-liked by the BAF, did you? Only orders from the higher-ups are going to keep the troops in line... if they can do that, even.
No, I'm asking it because you will not give a valid explanation, and that was not, it I'm afraid to say.
And quite a few people think like I do.
You won't answer the qusetion because it doesn't fit your agenda.
If it does, then well I'm all ears.
Also, if this explanation is good I'll use an story as crap as this to this to get my bounty hunter an Liberty dreadnought no?
Yeah thanks for the heads up Sovereign.
' Wrote:You know nothing about whether Kusari will re-enter the war. You're saying what lets you Q_Q most. It's not set in stone, but I would be surprised if Kusari doesn't re-enter the war... in a year or two. Don't pretend like this is the emperor's new clothes or anything. You're just paranoid and delusional. Get over it already.
Well, take me up on the bet I proposed earlier in this thread then.
I am going to be the man enough to admit that I was a bit too harsh with my first complaints on this thread though, but my point still stands.
It is:
1.Feels like you've bailed on the original Bretonia-Kusari war.
2.An excuse to populate Gallia.(Which isn't going to work BTW).
You know why not Kusari Gaz, cause thats not how the story is going. Plan and simple, this is a story and the people involved in writing think this makes for a better story. Thats all there is to it. Dont like it? Too bad.