' Wrote:Nicely written, but as stated above, not sure if it will work.
So you're like the [RM] and Police put together? Why not just join the other current factions and help them expand, instead of making new ones? IMO there's way to many factions that are "splitting" these days.
Harus thank you for your Feedback, please read Post#17. It shall explain your statement and question, thus why are their a lot of Corsair Factions? Why are their a lot of Outcasts Factions? Every one of these Factions have the same Goals, right? but they do it in a different matter, with different Backgrounds and stories.
So tell me just a well reason, why not? Why should it not be possible to create a province Army of Rhineland? the one, that exist yet, is for central issues and we are one which solve the west border problems. Tell me a very well reason why not?
' Wrote:Nicely written, but as stated above, not sure if it will work.
So you're like the [RM] and Police put together? Why not just join the other current factions and help them expand, instead of making new ones? IMO there's way to many factions that are "splitting" these days.
We don't have more rights than currently [RM]. But it is true, the difference between police and military faction is only the equipment and ZoI limit.
Why not join to RM? Hmmm I can talk only from my name. I tried joining RM but refused. They know why.
About recruiting. Please let me dictate the conditions. If someone feel that how he dont want to accomplishing more than 5 NPC mission about, for the IFF, he can join to RM anytime. That is larger, give more possibility, you can join to the war with Liberty and so on. My plan is an organized team. A really organized and its harder with noobs - my experience. I don't dream a large number member, but I wanna know I can count them if needed.
Not need to fear from that how this group focus only to Daumann. True this created by those player who usually mining in Omegas but 3/4 of this is Kruger oriented. DHC- give only 4 from 16 currently member.
About PvP skills. Its a bad habit in disco community how the player who good in fight bad in RP. I myself dont think so. Maybe a wrong composition the good fighting skills, I explain what I mean maybe it help. The player must know what is engine kill, must know strafe, must know how CD good against mines and missiles, must know avoid shootings and reach the base if he is in trouble, must know running if needed. The #1 RP rule is stay alive if possible. Must know obeying orders in game and during fights and so on. Maybe you say this is basic but again my experience, it isnt. I dont say you must hit your opponent with razor or SNAC all time, but at least shoot down his shield before you run out of nano:).
I've read post 17. My logic behind my post is, as an RM member, IMG doesn't like Military in their "system", they have actually told us to leave before, so why bother helping them if they don't want it? They own the only base attached to the tradelane you would patrol.
If you joined the Polizei, or Military, I am sure that the leaders of said factions would conciser your special group as a separate "wing", like they already have a few of.
But as I've said, you have put a lot of work and effort into your writings you've posted, but I'd rather see a group effort succeed after all this work, over having another Rheinland faction fail due to similar interests.
(By this you can use the example of the 15 bazillion different versions of IMG currently on discovery.)
' Wrote:Enemies Ageira?
How stupid, and who repairs your own gates? Right, nobody:P
Basicly enemy coz Ageira is the LN weapon supporter. If you come with gate lane parts you can pass, if no you will turning back or die - this is Rheinland law not my idea.
' Wrote:I've read post 17. My logic behind my post is, as an RM member, IMG doesn't like Military in their "system", they have actually told us to leave before, so why bother helping them if they don't want it? They own the only base attached to the tradelane you would patrol.
If you joined the Polizei, or Military, I am sure that the leaders of said factions would conciser your special group as a separate "wing", like they already have a few of.
But as I've said, you have put a lot of work and effort into your writings you've posted, but I'd rather see a group effort succeed after all this work, over having another Rheinland faction fail due to similar interests.
(By this you can use the example of the 15 bazillion different versions of IMG currently on discovery.)
Omega 7 is already declared as part of Rheinland by official RM faction years ago, who cares IMG like RM there or not. If I wanna correct the status is "Rheinland-occupied Border Word" came from rumors (see around Freiburg bar at least I found this there). So its not IMG or independent system. But I am sure they dont mind if we hunt the corsairs down too.
"If you joined the Polizei, or Military, I am sure that the leaders of said factions would conciser your special group as a separate "wing", like they already have a few of."
I tried to create a faction what is compatible with RM same ranking system and so on, but RM leadership said a big no, I needed to figure out a totally different system.
"But as I've said, you have put a lot of work and effort into your writings you've posted, but I'd rather see a group effort succeed after all this work, over having another Rheinland faction fail due to similar interests."
Sadly no, again from currently RM leadership: they dont care Omegas they care mostly Liberty war. They do some round there time to time but they cant stay there all the time and noone can await it, when Libertonians at the gates. Rheinland not only Omega systems. It is true but the miners want protection there and want good protection, not just in-name but real. We dont care Liberty war so we will stay there. This is why need experiented players - its a boring task, watching only the Omega systems.
' Wrote:And it makes sense, too. in RP the central Forces of Rhineland has a lot of to do`s in Hamburg to stop the invasors of Liberty, in centralrhineland their are many hostile activities and the west border of Rheinland is nearly unprotected. A rich goveneur from Planet Stuttgart has launched this force from the rest of the nomad war Soldiers after this. it is quite simple in my eyes.
Why not to become subdivision of [RM]? [RM-SF]Fl.Name.Surname?
' Wrote:Harus thank you for your Feedback, please read Post#17. It shall explain your statement and question, thus why are their a lot of Corsair Factions? Why are their a lot of Outcasts Factions? Every one of these Factions have the same Goals, right? but they do it in a different matter, with different Backgrounds and stories.
So tell me just a well reason, why not? Why should it not be possible to create a province Army of Rhineland? the one, that exist yet, is for central issues and we are one which solve the west border problems. Tell me a very well reason why not?
Firstly, Corsair and Outcast factions have different goals. Venezzi syndicate is looking for profit and spreading cardamine mostly. 101st is acting like military, they're dealing with technology upgrades and stuff.
Sails are "greedy pirates", dedicated to saving crete by gaining money, influence and food.
Benitez are mafia-type smugglers of artifacts.
The Brotherhood... That's mixed. Well, mostly they're "military" as well, but not that strict.
Why not? Because of Rheinland leadership. Kanzler. Gottkanzler, even. He won't handle out too much technology in untrusted hands. So you have to....
- Either bribe technology distributors
- Join Rheinland Military as separate wing / fleet / whatever.
- Steal technology.
- Whatever.
Why aren't you trusted? Because if you're -hired- by governor of Stuttgart, you're civilians without any military training in mind, with possible revolutionaree connections. So simply you're communist, you get your hands on bomber, you launch it and crash into home of Kanzler with screams "FUR RHEINLANDDDD!!".
' Wrote:Basicly enemy coz Ageira is the LN weapon supporter. If you come with gate lane parts you can pass, if no you will turning back or die - this is Rheinland law not my idea.
You shouldn't really know what Ageira is doing, in your Rheinland. And you're -dependant- on them. Otherwise don't use tradelanes and jumpgates (You can't use jumpholes too much as well, actually)
So move them to neutral or unfriendly. And note your stanse.
Also add Wilde, that's good RP material. Like you're quite scared of Wilde spreading covertly through Rheinland again.
Demanding that they should be made a sub-faction of the Rheinland Military or join the official Police Force in Rheinland is ridiculous to say the least.
They can have multiple reasons not to join them, both from an Role-Playing standpoint as well as a personal one.
Just because there are many split-groups dosen't mean they must join these two Factions or else get lost.
And Elven, I have seen this civilian ship technology complaint in the 101st Feedback thread as well, what's your problem really? It's civilian technology, everyone can use them, just drop it. PvP, RP, reasons whatever, in the end, it's civilian, also known as "available to everyone."
As for their requirement to have only good PvPers well that's up to them isn't it? Maybe they don't feel like training every new recruit they get and instead desire already well trained pilots. The consequence is that they will receive less influx of players to their Faction but I'm pretty damn certain that they are aware of that, so in the end, its still their choice.
Same goes for this talk of loyalty. Look at the =CR= , I don't know if they have changed it but as far as I'm aware members who are in other Factions besides =CR= can only reach a certain rank. Why are you not bitching at them for?
' Wrote:You shouldn't really know what Ageira is doing, in your Rheinland. And you're -dependant- on them. Otherwise don't use tradelanes and jumpgates (You can't use jumpholes too much as well, actually)
So move them to neutral or unfriendly. And note your stanse.
Ok, so from now on no Outcasts can use trade-lanes and jump-gates, because Ageira is hostile to them. Clearly, asking them to not use any trade-lanes or jump-gates because they have declared the producers of said materials as hostile, is complete BS.
"Gottkanzler" is not part of Rheinland RP. Hasn't been for more than a year. It's just "Kanzler", there is no religion involved. I feel the need to point this out because people still seem to forget.
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At any rate, the WRF are a cool faction. They are very O-7 oriented however, even if they still try to operate in Stuttgart and Berlin. O-7 at the moment has little to no RM presence, as RM's in RP directives are to divert forces to the Hamburg front first and foremost. That's the RP of the official RM faction, which is perfectly fine and in complete accordance to the mod storyline.
However, the WRF is more of a response to server realities. That doesn't mean the faction is automatically disqualified, quite the contrary - I have fun fighting them on my RHA. Most people seem to make an automatic assumption that this faction is just for pvp whoring. Well, it's not. The WRF try to keep the peace in RP, they don't exactly rape O-7 sideways with huge swarms of caps or even just huge swarms at all as some people think. They have an unbelievable dedication to fair fights to the point where it almost defies realism.
All in all can't say a bad word about WRF. Keep on doing what you are doing guys, the only thing that needs to be done is more cooperation with the official RM faction, and you're good to go in my opinion.
' Wrote:Why not to become subdivision of [RM]? [RM-SF]Fl.Name.Surname?
As I said - refused.
' Wrote:Why not? Because of Rheinland leadership. Kanzler. Gottkanzler, even. He won't handle out too much technology in untrusted hands. So you have to....
- Either bribe technology distributors
- Join Rheinland Military as separate wing / fleet / whatever.
- Steal technology.
- Whatever.
Why aren't you trusted? Because if you're -hired- by governor of Stuttgart, you're civilians without any military training in mind, with possible revolutionaree connections. So simply you're communist, you get your hands on bomber, you launch it and crash into home of Kanzler with screams "FUR RHEINLANDDDD!!".
This is not Sovet union, this is a capitalist state. Not the Kanzler own the weapons but the firm what produce this, actually Daumann - or should be. Whom they sell thats Daumann business until not hurt the interests of Rheinland Republic. We are not civilians the name and idea came from vanilla game there was West Rheinland Fleet and North Rheinland fleet too.
' Wrote:You shouldn't really know what Ageira is doing, in your Rheinland. And you're -dependant- on them. Otherwise don't use tradelanes and jumpgates (You can't use jumpholes too much as well, actually)
So move them to neutral or unfriendly. And note your stanse.
Also add Wilde, that's good RP material. Like you're quite scared of Wilde spreading covertly through Rheinland again.
Ageira remain in hostile status its no question. Actually they just produce the lane parts, but DSE build up where needed. Again, if you come with Gate/Lane parts you can pass, otherwise you count as enemy of the state.
' Wrote:All in all can't say a bad word about WRF. Keep on doing what you are doing guys, the only thing that needs to be done is more cooperation with the official RM faction, and you're good to go in my opinion.
Thank you, we work on it and seems like something positive happened in the last weeks, at least we meet lesser hostility like in the start from RM side.