.... gaians are poor, they haven t got anything bigger than a bomber ( new ) - but rather only the eagle.... and most NPCs fly starfliers /cry .... so talk about poor economics and capship factions:laugh:
edit: i absolutely love that ship... but i really don t understand why its blood dragon. i d rather see them ... if any ... fly old worn out kusari Battleships, while such a new vessel would become the new standard battleship of the KNF. it looks more modern, and all around nicer than the vanilla BS. ( or is the blood dragon ship ... errr.. stolen again? - hell, the house militaries really need guards then, cause HALF their supernew and secret ships are stolen and EXCLUSIVLY used by pirates. )
' Wrote:@ Xing: Tekagi was infested. There are no exactly words, if the emperor was it too.
The same what happened to the Order can be happened to the Blood Dragons indeed. The Nomad Crisis, the war with Bretonia. I think BD's are well grown, just because of the ongoing war.
We cannot give the Nova PG a BS used by themself only. It will be sold in Tau 63 to limit the access a bit.
Btw, Blood Dragons have 3 shipdealers.
Respectfully
AoM
ps: I'm very biased in this matter. It is the best model i have ever created. So i want it in-game.:yes:
We want it in game too. We think its an amazing model... it's just that it may be better suited for the KNF perhaps. I can imagine the NovaPG getting their hands on one and repainting it though (ta-da, a reason to have the Blood Dragon skinned one!), but Blood Dragons building their own Battleships is a big no-no for me, personally... they just don't have the material or personnel.
Well you can use the excuse that this ship was sculpted from a giant asteroid.
Now give it uber hull and starflier sheilds. :crazy:
Been here since Discovery 4.77 (lurk mode engaged)
Zapp Wrote:I have recently met and discussed with Atalawohisdi the trader that flies the Caribe. Just so everyone knows, I engaged in Sigma 13. He flies through half the system before going back to New Berlin, where he cruises from one side of the system to the other, hugging the sun as close as he can. All the while, he flies near Battleships trying to scrape me off. I finally send out the white flag, and move back to Sigma 13. However, it was a ruse, and he bit. Knowing his trade route, I interdicted the trade lane and the chase began anew. It ended, an hour after it began, with me retreating, out of Countermeasures and getting very irritated.
He kept boasting how he has never been caught; I'd like to see him beat until he begs to pay, then beaten some more.
' Wrote:@ blunt: Hm, BD's have a shipyard and not a small one. At least they had it the last time i visited Tau 63.
They still don't have crewmen. I'd build gunboats, bombers and fighters in that shipyard. They live on asteroids. Asteroid bases can't hold enough places to quarter many battleship crews. Also, shipyards or not, raw materials is still an issue. I can see Blood Dragons using salvaged, out of date KNF gear, repainting it in their own colours after a defection or something, but constructing battleships breaks immersion a little.
Corsairs, Outcasts and maybe Red Hessians are really the only pirates that I can see with large capital class vessels. They are the ones that can fight in large-scale wars... the others, like Bundschuh, Blood Dragons, Farmer's Alliance and the like don't have the manpower or resources, really.
I'd say not quite, Blunt... This is a Light Battleship, by the looks of it, small, twelve guns and light armor. If they were building Outcast Dreadnoughts then I'd say no, but this is more the size of a Battlecruiser, and the BHG have pretty pathetic resources, yet they manage to get a very nice Battleship... Heck, the Dragons probably only built two or three of these babies, they would be so expensive, but they do have the capability to construct battleships, just not cheaply and in large numbers like a house faction.
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Yeah, but they're already getting cruisers. They'd run out of material and men fast.
I can see them *MAYBE* having ONE light battleship... but really, how many do you THINK we'll see?
Regarding BHG, they are a bigger organisation than the BD and are filthy rich, and are contracted by Liberty to fight a war against the Order. I can see them contracting private ship builders to make ships for them.
I'm just a concerned fighter pilot worried about the server's cap-whoring tendencies that break the roleplay immersion for folk...
EDIT: Again, for the record... it's a beautiful ship. Amazing. But... I'm just of the opinion that KNF could use it....
actually there is an idea - why make it a battleship. a battlecruiser fits better anyway - 12(2) guns on it - and a hull of roughly 300k-320k with a nicer agility than a battleship and the usual sufficient cruiser shields. fits to the shape and the use of it.
on the other hand, if the faction leaders insist on getting a dozen battleships - go ahead. but keep in mind that the official KNF faction has less than i think 2 kusari battleships - and i don t think a small faction like BD should have more battleships in service than the main faction of kusari.
about BHG, they are rich, - money buys allmos anything. about not many BS should be out there ... think of the zoner jug. supposed to be few ( 3 is a rumor and might be more ) but certainly not many - ok there are not tooooo many, but still. ( they don t really make a great appearance, cause zoners hardly engage with them... BDs will actually use those ships so its different )
soo.. with that in mind.. i like the battlecruiser idea quite well... and hey, you won t need to buy a license for it then !
jinx:
actually there is an idea - why make it a battleship. a battlecruiser fits better anyway - 12(2) guns on it - and a hull of roughly 300k-320k with a nicer agility than a battleship and the usual sufficient cruiser shields. fits to the shape and the use of it.
osiris as BS has 340 k armor and more agile cruiser with 300-320 and more agile?not good i think.
jinx:
about BHG, they are rich, - money buys allmos anything. about not many BS should be out there ... think of the zoner jug. supposed to be few ( 3 is a rumor and might be more ) but certainly not many - ok there are not tooooo many, but still. ( they don t really make a great appearance, cause zoners hardly engage with them... BDs will actually use those ships so its different )
BHG are rich yes,and in last time,only what i meet are BH battlecruisers (2 or 3 in formation with no fighters escorts so what you need to destroy them,fighters?)
i think this ship looks great and is great as it is.
and here on disco is only one blood dragon faction (NovaPG) and you think that their leader will give right to buy this ship to all?i think this ship will be used as their flagship (i think now is that outcast dread or no?) and maybe one or two more.