' Wrote:they can still get to delta - without passing hostile space. it just isn t 74 anymore but gamma.
Officially, no. The NAP does not grant BHG Core the right to pass through Gamma. Some Sairs are nice enough to let them - with the general thought behind it, if BHG Core is annoying Zoners and Order, they won't come and bother us as much. But officially, they are valid targets in Omicron Gamma for the entire Corsair fleet. The other alternate route is through Theta, Eta and Minor. Probably even less friendly for them...
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' Wrote:File a bloody report then!
That way you'l know instead of making a debacle off this!?!
I mean in all honestly why couldn't you have just sent a PM to the admins?
Ohh.. Yes, you wanted this to be a trial by forum, righto matey you really have the higher ground here *thumbs up*
Have your fun ^^
Not all all, kid. I just want this to be public because I think this problem needs to be solved by adding to the game rules something about the zoner guard ID or - this would be easier - changing the Zoner Guard ID so that they can kill stuff at least in their home system. Because of the growing hostilities towards the Zoners this kind of events will appear more often and both sides should know what they can or can not do inside Omnicron 74
Just a question ... ahhh ... aren't the DHC helping the B Hunters? You take suplies to one Dabadoru and want to pass by a ZONER guard system freely? Is like on war, real life one, , i pass by one side line and say "excuse me, i'm gonna take some suplies to your enemy, bye then have fun!"! Damn!
What Liberty do if someone pass with a transport to suplie Rheinland? Aren't limits about what cargo can take? Even not passing by a guard system!
And about the Zoner guard ID ... what about the B Hunter ID, they can not ally to unlawfull and they are "very friendly" with the Corsairs?
' Wrote:Just a question ... ahhh ... aren't the DHC helping the B Hunters? You take suplies to one Dabadoru and want to pass by a ZONER guard system freely? Is like on war, real life one, , i pass by one side line and say "excuse me, i'm gonna take some suplies to your enemy, bye then have fun!"! Damn!
What Liberty do if someone pass with a transport to suplie Rheinland? Aren't limits about what cargo can take? Even not passing by a guard system!
And about the Zoner guard ID ... what about the B Hunter ID, they can not ally to unlawfull and they are "very friendly" with the Corsairs?
Take care all
DHC is not "helping" the hunters. It's just business. Yes, DHC hauls for them, but for the zoners to know and RP about that would be metagaming, right?
Feel free to discuss other ID's somewhere else, this thread is about the Zoner Guard ID
Edit: when I was killed I was carrying iridium which I got from FREEPORT 11, so I was actually hauling for/from the Zoners at the time. The guy who killed me didn't even bother to scan me
Quote:Just a question ... ahhh ... aren't the DHC helping the B Hunters? You take suplies to one Dabadoru and want to pass by a ZONER guard system freely? Is like on war, real life one, , i pass by one side line and say "excuse me, i'm gonna take some suplies to your enemy, bye then have fun!"! Damn!
It's a bit off-topic since I hadn't seen an official statememnt regarding the way Zoners deal with Dauhmann or even unofficial one, but Zoners posess the information about grown Dauhmann activity in Omicrons, about the usage of Omicron Gamma and about suppying Dabadoru.
We don't want to pass by a zoner guard system freely, Vito was just asking a question reagarding an engagement; we knew going Delta would be fun.
Also zoners could never know we are supplying the bounty hunters.
' Wrote:you can reach ANY point in sirius that is not a guard system - without ever touching a guard system.
Actually, no. You can't reach Oita without passing through Ellesmere, Hiroshima, or Illinois.
But remember, you can do anything you want, but if you're caught, you face the consequences, be they in-RP or not.
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' Wrote:DHC is not "helping" the hunters. It's just business. Yes, DHC hauls for them, but for the zoners to know and RP about that would be metagaming, right?
Feel free to discuss other ID's somewhere else, this thread is about the Zoner Guard ID
To be fair... It doesn't take Holmes-like powers of deduction to realise what you're doing. You're shipping through '74 to Omicron Delta. You're not delivering to The Order, seeing as you shouldn't actually know about them, technically speaking (this is about metagaming, right? Why would a House civilian know anything about the Omicron edition of the Illuminati?). You're not delivering to Freeport 11, because... Well, it's a Zoner station, so we know. You're most definately not delivering to the Liberty Navy in Alaska for the obvious reasons. That leaves two destinations for those oh so very obvious shipments of station maintenance goods: The Nomads and the Core.
Either would warrant you being shot, really. The Nomads for obvious reasons. Then there's the fact you'd be aiding an enemy that's been attacking and murdering Zoners in the case of the Core. Plus I would imagine the Zoners would harbour no love for Rhienlanders, given that they were the ones who kicked off the Nomad War last time, which was preluded by the destruction of Freeport 7. Of course, that is just idle speculation on my behalf and has no bearing on the Zoner factions' RP. Which brings me to my next point. The Omicroners are playing a very paranoid and suspicious group.
So, when you combine the afore mentioned deduction with the fact that the system has explicitly been announced as closed by its owners, then throw in the fact that you were an unknown non-Zoner transport pilot, potentially shipping to the Zoners' enemies, and well... Yeah. Things happen.
But if there is an announcement that states that IDs take precendence over rules, Vlko has raised a very interesting point. That would mean that the Zoner Guard ID does in fact superceed the Guard System ruleset. So yes, he does have a point from a rule-angle. But not from a roleplay one.
Quote:To be fair... It doesn't take Holmes-like powers of deduction to realise what you're doing. You're shipping through '74 to Omicron Delta. You're not delivering to The Order, seeing as you shouldn't actually know about them, technically speaking (this is about metagaming, right? Why would a House civilian know anything about the Omicron edition of the Illuminati?).
Howard, it's much simpler. Do you want to get a screenshot of DHC official transport full of Light Arms docking at Dabadoru and screenshots of DHC ships jumping to Gamma?