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From: Acting Chief Commissioner Lucy Silsbury
To: The Junker Congress
Subject: Ore Theft
To whom it may concern:
We are currently looking into an incident between one of your number, a .:J:.Schultz and one Oreland_Freytag.
The Sergeant on the scene states that there was a conflict between these two as apparently Mr Schultz took the liberty of obtaining some of Oreland's recently mine gold ore.
However, though the BMM affiliated miner claims that the Junker stole the ore Mr Schultz is adamant that a pre-existing contract was in place allowing him to take excess ore.
We would like more information before we act; could you clarify this situation for us?
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****Comm ID: Arbiter Jack Crow****
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Thank you very much for contacting me. I have recently heard of a similar incident and have some questions myself. I have not personally spent time in Dublin in a long time but I understand the activity has increased quite a bit. There has been a great deal of demand for independent haulers to carry ore out of the system. We have received many of the requests. Having once been a captain of one of these independent haulers I understand the attraction of these jobs. The problem is that it's not always possible to determine if the ore was obtained under honest circumstances or not. My question to you is this. Do you currently have a procedure in place where the origin of ore being sold for transport can be verified?
I will continue to investigate this incident on our end and stay in touch with you.
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From: Acting Chief Commissioner Lucy Silsbury
To: The Junker Congress
Subject: Ore Theft
We have no way of verifying the origin of the ore as specifically as of to be of use here. It's not our job to watch every miner in Dublin like a hawk whilst taking a tally of their ore production so we must go off the most likely of stories from the two subjects.
Unfortunately at this point Mr. Schultz's story doesn't hold as much water as Oreland's.
We await the results of your investigation.
Good day sirs,
Chief Commissioner Lucy Salisbury is saddened by the lack of progress the Junkers have made investigating this matter, so she has placed me, as the officer on the scene, in charge of the Bretonian investigation.
I am enclosing my report on the incident, so that you may see our evidence for yourself:
I was called by BMM miner Oreland Frietag that Junker congressman .:J:.Schultz had stolen his gold ore, I ordered the Junker to stand by for questioning, and he responded that I should come to Hood, I did so, and found him there with over 4 hundred units of Gold ore in his hold (Market price, between 4 and 5 million sirius credits in Liberty)
Oreland claimed that the Junker simply came and stole the ore that he had been mining for his transporter, the Junker did not deny he had taken the ore, but claimed he had a contract with the miner whereby he could have any ore the miner had mined, which did not fit inside the miner's hold.
Finding this very unlikely, and seeing as the junker could provide no proof of this contract, I ordered him to return the Ore:
I (foolhardily) pursued, and was in the process of capturing him, when the sun burnt my shield off my hull, and then quickly all my other equipment and guns! Without a thruster I was trapped in the sun, and with no shield, it was only seconds before my ship was destroyed, thankfully my escape pod burst free of the sun's gravitational field.
Piracy, or at least armed robbery. 1 count
Resisting Arrest. 2 counts
For Mr Schultz.
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I ask you to send any evidence you have to this channel also.
Now, as you can see from the report; the evidence that Mr Schultz stole the ore was strong, if not overwhelming, but the proof that he resisted arrest is irrefutable.
Therefore, I am fining the Junker Congress 10 million credits, this fine has 24 hours to be paid. Of course you have the right to request a trial, but it is very likely that a loss at trial will result in a larger fine, as well as court fees, and the obvious criminal record.
I am aware of the possibility that Mr Schultz was acting of his own accord, and not under JC orders or directives. If this is the case, then we expect either the fine from him, or we request the JC expel him from the "Junker" organisation, and aid us in his capture
I thank you for youre co-operation.
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****Comm ID: Arbiter Jack Crow****
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I find it interesting that your evidence backs up the story that Schultz told me personally. He said the miner wanted to use Trafalger for refuge and told him that in return for this favor if he should happen to mine anything that would not fit in his hold, Schultz could have it. Then when Schultz went to collect, he told him that was all just a cruel joke and Schultz would have to pay for that ore. Well, no good Junker likes to be cheated out of a deal so he simple took matters into his own hands. I think the rest of what he did was simply out of mistrust for your organization. This is understandable as some of the police forces we have dealt with have proven to be quite corrupt. The BPA however have usually treated us rather well and I'll make sure the rest of my men know about this. The ones that don't seem to get it will be kept out of Bretonia.
This is what I'm seeing here. You have two people telling two very different stories but you don't have anything that really proves either one of them. I'm taking matters on my end to make sure this never happens again. Do you really want to bring something like this to trial?
Thank you for you're swift reply sir,
It is excellent to see that we can both agree mr Schultz took the ore, and did so based simply on the aforementioned "contract".
Now, I'm sure you would agree that if no such contract existed, this would be a simple matter of theft?
Well, seeing as Mr Schultz could provide no proof of this contract, and Mr Freitag denied it's existence, (as well as the HIGHLY doubtful terms - Why would mr frietag continue to mine when he could not fit the surplus ore in his hold, other than to mine for his transporter? And I see no reason for BMM ships to need sanctuary on Junker bases, as they do not travel to those regions populated by Junkers, as well as the fact that Junker bases are already open to all who come in peace, is that not so?) I therefore think it should be obvious to you, and the rest of the Congress, why it has been decided this "contract" was a mere invention by Mr Schultz, in an attempt to escape charges.
In addition, I would remind you that the fine encompasses not only the theft, but also Mr Schultz's actions of resisting arrest, dangerous flying, and Ddocking on Hood, in violation of Bretonian/IMG treaties, and IMG edict 63. thus jeopardizing IMG/Bretonian relationships, in this already unstable system.
Therefore, if you can provide PROOF that this "ore-for-sanctuary contract" existed, we will consider dropping the charges of theft, and reducing the fine to 5 million credits. However the 3 above are proven beyond doubt, and will not be dropped.
I hope I have explained myself, and the BPA's position, as well as reasoning, clearly, and invite you to post any proof of the "contract" you have, in the 10 hours remaining before the fine is due.
Thankyou for your co-operation.
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I think you are jumping the gun just a little. The only thing in which we are in agreement is that Schultz was in possession of the ore. There is nothing showing where the ore came from. We have two different stories and nothing that backs it up either way. I'm going to lay the law down to my men about documentation and securing contracts in writing.
You are riding on a mountain of speculation here. You don't see why BMM would seek refuge on a Junker base. Well honestly neither do I and yet they come there along with Bowex and ALG to boot.
You have made a case against my man for theft. The case is based purely on speculation. You don't think the miner would have done this and you don't think so and so would have reacted in a certain way. Well, there is a certain amount of logic to what you are saying, but that still doesn't amount to proof that it happened the way you say. He ran because he felt he was being accosted for something that he hadn't done.
For my last, by your own admission this issue ended with Schultz's ship flying into the sun. Tragic to say the least, but unless you plan to arrest a dead man I think we are done here.
Mr crow; I hope you will agree I have tried to treat you with courtesy during this unfortunate exchange, if I have fallen short of your expectations in this department and offended you, then I apologise. However I expect you to return me the same courtesy, by not wasting my time, and insulting my intelligence with such pointless, transparent, and self evidently incorrect arguments, such as:
Quote:There is nothing showing where the ore came from.
It pains me to see us wasting our valuable arguing a point like this, but you have forced it upon me:
In your very own words only moments ago you claimed Mr schultz told you:
Quote:Schultz told me personally. He said the miner wanted to use Trafalger for refuge and told him that in return for this favor if he should happen to mine anything that would not fit in his hold, Schultz could have it. Then when Schultz went to collect, he told him that was all just a cruel joke and Schultz would have to pay for that ore. Well, no good Junker likes to be cheated out of a deal so he simple took matters into his own hands.
In addition, if you will look at recordings 2 and 3, you will see Mr Freitag stating Mr Schultz took the ore, and Mr Schultz confirming it, whilst trying to justify his actions through the "contract".
This is the LAST time I will argue this point, as mr Schultz so clearly took the ore Mr Freitag had been mining.
As for:
Quote:For my last, by your own admission this issue ended with Schultz's ship flying into the sun. Tragic to say the least, but unless you plan to arrest a dead man I think we are done here.
Mr Crow, do you claim to have psychic powers? Do you prehaps own a ouija board? If not, how were you telling me the results of your conversation with Mr Schultz AFTER the event?
I am sure you of all people know that the salvager has more hull strength than the challenger, and can therefore survive where the challenger cannot, and, as recordings 6 and 7 should show you, as well as this one I am uploading here, taken from my escape pod:
(If the fact that you were hearing his voice did not make you consider)
Mr schultz did not perish in the sun, but circled around and headed for Hood.
Again, I do not expect to see such a disgraceful "argument" (if it can be dignified with that term) as claiming a man well known to be alive, to have died some days beforehand, to come up again.
Mr crow, I am very disappointed, both in your poor form in trying these underhanded arguments, and in your intelligence if they were the best you could concoct.
These blatant attempts to confuse the issue smack of Interfering with the Course of Justice, and I will not stand for it. You have been warned.
We still await any proof of the contract, in the 9 hours until the fine is due.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into this. I did speak to Schultz over long range. After I told you that you told me that he took a sun dive trying to evade you. I don't know what happened when and I simply don't care.
I'm going to cut you a break since I'm very tired. Go speak to a lawyer and ask about burden of proof. You will find that it lies with the accuser. It is not the responsibility of Mr. Schultz to prove he did not steal the ore, it is your responsibility to prove that he did. You have not done so. Yes he had ore. Yes he got it from the area where your accuser was mining. There is still nothing to show that the ore was taken unlawfully or that any sort of piracy took place at all.
As I said sir, I will not discuss the already settled matter that Mr Schultz took the ore Mr Freitag had mined, any further.
Let me remind you that this is not a trial, I am of course no lawyer, this is a chance for you as a faction to pay the fine for the actions of one of your members, and walk away with a clean slate.
As I said earlier, you may request a trial, although this will likely incur greater penalties if you are defeated, as well as court fees, and a criminal record.
If you wish to request a trial, you must do so before the 6 remaining hours until the fine is due have expired, otherwise non-payment of fines will be added to the charge list.
Thankyou for your co-operation
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