The price of ore is too damn high!

[Champ]

Prompted by doing some mining today I was told that a price of 35% for Niobium ore (3496.5 cred/unit) was far too high, crazy even.

So I thought I would get the community's thoughts on this.

What's a fair balance between the trader paying and the miner earning credits for their work?
What's the most reasonable price to be paid?

Of course factors about how easy or difficult an ore is to mine is come to play. Well, for the moment, imagine this is a corporation in their own house mining what they're supposed to mine, with all the necessary bonuses, and the sale price (profit) is reflective of how quickly the ore drops from the field (because the mod did get balanced to that end). For now, let's however ignore inter-house politics and inter-corporation competition prices.

If you suggest any other factors we need to take into consideration and any thoughts you have please suggest them and I'll put them up here.

What does the person who just shot rocks to fill your hull for 30 minutes deserve of the proportion of your profit?

Additional factors suggested:

• Hauling distance / time
  
  Counter-proposition: Prices balanced already.

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[SA_Scavenger]

Usually between 40 to 50 % of the sale price, also depends on the length of time the person has to haul the ore for. 35 % is not too high for Niobium though.

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[Champ]

Thanks for your thoughts to get the ball rolling!
I've added your factor and suggested a counter proposition, but I certainly don't mean to knock it down and I definitely haven't timed the routes myself.

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[Lumik]

I was hauling gold ore at 4.85 a lot and there was an agreement between miners to want half of sold price at Liberty, so most of they wanted 3 000 credits per unit if I remember well. So as Scavenger said, usually price is between 40 and 50 percent, 35 percent is very good price. If the hauler is going to Liberty or Rheinland with 5k transport, you get 17,5 million and his profit is around 30 million which is very good so I don´t seem any problem. Traders sometimes don´t understand that miners can´t earn money in time when there are not haulers so they have to set this price. Trader can trade something else when there are no miners at mining site.

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[Rafaelo]

Ill go for 40-50%. I think it should be less than 50% because it's the trader that's going to haul it all the way to point B, while the miner just stays at point A shooting rocks and is at minor risk of being pirated than the trader. And if the miner is fast, pay him another 2m, which is what I do.
The players complaining that it's too high just want to power trade until they can have 4 battleships or something.

[Tachyon]

Depends; however, when I am mining for the IMG| doodz, I usually don't demand any payment. For indies it's around 40%.

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[Savvy ?]

I usually ask around 50% for indie and 35% for official faction member.
I want to straight things up,miner do have same risk as trader,if they get killed they cant continue mining in the same system,so they are fair target for pirates

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[Stuart.croll]

On the odd occasion that I mine for someone else I will never ask for more than 3000 a pop.
Likewise I wouldn,t expect to pay more than 3500 myself.
Oh and if anyone is taking half an hour to fill even a 5k trans then they are either in the wrong place or their setup is way wrong.

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[AeternusDoleo]

The de-facto 4.85 standard was "half the highest selling point" but frankly, it's up to the miner and the hauler to set the price among themselves. Some things can be a factor - how much you like the faction the trader's belonging to (BMM giving BOWEX a discount, IMG giving Gateway a discount... along those lines). There is no set price really.

Someone saying 35% is too high can go do the work themselves. Your offer was not unreasonable.

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[SA_Scavenger]

Thanks for your thoughts to get the ball rolling!
I've added your factor and suggested a counter proposition, but I certainly don't mean to knock it down and I definitely haven't timed the routes myself.

Oh yes, I certainly know the routes have been balanced for haul time. It's pirates and other factors that come into play for the hauler that impact the price for a longer route versus a shorter route.

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