Maybe you've wondered many time especially when writing a role play story, "how long" or "how wide" your ship is?
There seems to be nowhere where such thing is mentionned in the original universe of Freelancer. And we know the metric/kilometre system of Freelancer is less or more realistic, considering a planet's radius is definitively not large enough to be realistic.
It seems however we can get a rough idea by looking at seated pilot in game, and compare it to the rest of the ship. Now all you need to do is to imagine it standing, and determine how tall the man should be (I for instance, believe the pilot in-game is probably 170cm high, a relatively generic height)
I wonder, can anyone take such a screenshot, and do the measurement for us, for say a patriot? And from this we can compare it to other fighters and eventually capships to get a rough idea (rough, because as such we cant be certain how tall exactly is that pilot sitting in the cockpit) how big are our ships. I would do this now, but I dont have FL on this computer... but I believe it could be very useful for rp reference.
I think the measurements are still a bit off for capships, even if you use the little pilot men, as if you did, then capships wouldn't be very big at all. Maybe two decks. For fighters, though, maybe a bit better.
Interesting idea.. I envision most snub ships in Sirius as being 10-25 metres in length, freighters as being 25-40 metres, transports and gunboats 200 metres, trains and cruisers 600 metres and battleships around 1000-1500 metres.
Scaling of that sort might not work, given you'd probably have about 500 pilots in diameter planets.
1000/1500 metre - that was exactly why I was questionning on this. Because if in SW the 1600 metre Star Destroyer is considered tall, then it would seems in Freelancer we have incredibly lot of ressources to spawn very close-in-size battleships at high rate, by only using a sector of the galaxy (whereas, the galactic empire of SW had a good 3/4 of their galaxy to exploit ressources).
The Imperial I and II are both 1800 metres, small correction. Length is a wee bit trickier to envision, as some ships are tall (BHG snubs) and some ships are narrow (Nomad capitals)
Get three patriots, one by you, and line them up, then target the patriot on the other side and that is how long a patriot is.
Since there is a patriot between you and the other. You have your meters
As for Freelancer and Star Wars, it seems that Freelancer Weapondry is more powerful, however the Star Wars ships are more heavly armored.
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There is absolutely no way that Sirius could possibly be more technologically advanced than Star Wars. Clone Wars-era transports in Star Wars are capable of unloading the equivalent of 13,000,000 Hiroshimas in terms of power with a single shot on a quad turbolaser, Imperial I and II Star Destroyers, which are not even close to being the largest ships the Empire has (the Mandator class Star Battlecruiser and Praetor class Star Battlecruiser, and of course the Eclipse, Sovereign and Executor class Star Dreadnoughts) are capable of *completely melting* the upper crust of an atmosphere within, at most, 3 days.
Star Wars armies number in the quintillions. The Techno Union, a private corporation, had dozens of planets entirely covered in factories for the sole purpose of producing droids. There were at least 25,000 Imperial I and II class Star Destroyers and 1024 Executor class Star Dreadnoughts (judging by even old, minimalistic data like that of West End Games, specifically Cracken's Threat Dossier) and the resources of a private corporation are capable of building, in secret, a battlestation 960 kilometres in diameter capable of destroying entire planets.
In fact, with relatively little assistance, the Hutts (a crime cartel that controls a whole area of space, which amounts to thousands of worlds *at least*) managed to build a lower-level Death Star. There are 1 million major worlds in the Empire alone, and 51,000,000 known planets in the Galaxy. Transgalactic travel is achievable in a matter of hours.
There are *at least* 1024 sectors in Star Wars, and that is merely those known of and represented in the Republic Senate. In short, Star Wars is on a galactic scale. FL is on a single sector scale.
Now, you might argue that Starfliers can "destroy cities". But we never hear any reports of that nature, which surely would appear in the news or on chatter, and thermonuclear weapons (of unknown yield but small size) are considered top-level munitions for snub ships as mines. If Justice Mk I guns could vaporise entire cities, why can't they blow up far less powerful stations?
if a window is roughly half the size of a standing human being - then a common battleship should be about the size of a cruiser ( ship RL ) - and the big battleships maybe the size of those smaller aircraft carriers ( - i think russia has those half sized carriers )
not even the rheinland battleship would be the size of a normal US carrier, i believe.
but the fighters are sometimes surprisingly large. ( when the pilot is allways the same size ) - while the patriot has a classic size for a fighter ( maybe 8 - 12 meters in length ) the hammerhead is really big. - the pilot is sitting in that cockpit with at least 6 meters vertical main body of the ship below him + wings. - the ship looks smaller than it is.
comparing the inner proportions with the outer proportions though - ( like hangar sizes, ship sizes and the space they have for it ) - i d say that a liberty dreadnaught is "meant" to be like a hundred meters long at least - maybe 200, - while the rheinland battleship is certainly meant to be the size of a real carrier ( how long is a real one? - 400 meter - 500? )
What I did, is I observed how small trent was to the star flier that he gets in single player on Manhattan, and then took it from there with my imagination.
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FL ships aren t really small, yes. - when the humpbacks cargo bay is described as "cavernous" it actually IS pretty big. - ships like the heavy tanker would probably big enough to have an entire soccer field inside. - the problem there is - that from afar, the ships look rather small - cause we only see the cockpit window, which we associate with something like a windscreen. - but when you look at it. - its mostly a full panorama view. - that means, its bigger than the whole pilot ( look at the hussar / cavalier ) - the front screen is a round window, greater than the pilot, instead of just a small cockpit window.
... soo, a starflier would be much bigger than a X-wing from star wars. but the starwars capital ships are simply carried away when it comes to size. they re no ships anymore but habitats. - and i wonder what all the room is for on ships like the superstar destroyer or that eclipse star destroyer. they have a bridge, some engines, several thousand guns..... and still plenty of room left. ( i think the star destroyer is like 8000 meters long, several hundred meters tall and some thousand meters wide .... rediculous )