COMM ID: [color=#99FFFF]Ensign Jeremy McKenzie TARGET ID:Liberty Security Force DIA; Naval Mid-Command; LSF Director SUBJECT:Inquiry ENCRYPTION:High PRIORITY:High
To whom it may concern of the Liberty Security Force Department of Internal Affairs, I contact you with regard to an incident which occured earlier today concering orders given by LSF personnel to Naval secondary fleet.
I'm not going to bring specifics into it yet as there is little point complicating this further. The simple matter is that during an operation involving the removal of a foreign, but not hostile warship, one of your agents, Sierra, saw fit to do several things. These were that;
1 - Your agent threatened destruction of a Zoner Nephilim vessel without an accompanying condition of the utmost urgency, in a less than diplomatic manner at a time at which no hostilities had otherwise been exchanged. I'm sure you can appreciate the risks of starting a war with any Zoners.
2 - Your agent briefly and vaguely ordered the death, specifically, of a low-level civilian ship, to be carried out by a secondary fleet naval officer, which was carried out without any other orders or communication with the civilian ship, to no concern of the agent whatsoever.
3 - When questioned on the matter by Naval personnel, your agent refused to respond with any information, despite being ordered, other than to contact you directly.
We didn't want to face the paperwork on this, and surely neither do you, but this has come down to the necessitation of formal action. Should you require further information to these ends, do let us know.
I very eagerly await your decision with regards to action in this.
[color=#FFFFFF]COMM ID:Lieutenant Jorzza Clark COMM TARGET:=LSF= DIA and The Director Of The LSF. CC:Primary Fleet Middle and High Command Priority:High Encryption:High
Good Day.
I Am Lieutenant Jorzza Clark. Logistics Division. I heard about this incident via our Secure Comms while working on a gunboat. I then launched. When I sent a Private Message to him over the usual private comm channels he or she I'm not sure seeings as you cant tell gender by the phonetic alphabet but anyhow, I was immediately stonewalled. When i did Confront Sierra tried to redirect by trying to get into a different circumstance, As well as more stone walling. Now Mr or Ms Raven in this seems to be of no wrong doing. I am now uploading the transcript from our chat outside Norfolk.
Quote:[01.05.2012 18:02:42] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Clark Here, Liberty Navy. I've just been told some disturbing news. can we get a meet up say Zone 21?
[01.05.2012 18:02:54] =LSF=Sierra: "What news."
[01.05.2012 18:03:06] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: just sent a message to the LSF in question
[01.05.2012 18:03:19] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Better we discuss this in person
[01.05.2012 18:03:20] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: //*Plays Jaws theme*
[01.05.2012 18:03:42] =LSF=Sierra: "You can go through the appropriate channels to talk to me."
[01.05.2012 18:04:05] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: // I hope this doesn't go to **** or anything.
[01.05.2012 18:04:44] /fi =lsf=
[01.05.2012 18:04:44] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: //At the end of the day, it's a game, but I want to see official factions playing respectable.
[01.05.2012 18:04:49] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: //ly*
[01.05.2012 18:04:52] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: // Ditto that.
[01.05.2012 18:04:53] =LSF=Sierra: "As I've said... You can go through the DIA."
[01.05.2012 18:05:16] Don't use F1 or disconnect when interacting with other players.
[01.05.2012 18:05:29] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Can we get Sierra on this line as well
[01.05.2012 18:05:47] =LSF=Raven: I tried.. he doesn't want to respond..
[01.05.2012 18:05:59] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: *groan*
[01.05.2012 18:06:00] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: That's not encouraging.
[01.05.2012 18:06:00] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: // :I
[01.05.2012 18:06:15] Death: Nevedimka committed suicide
[01.05.2012 18:06:31] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Okay good
[01.05.2012 18:06:34] =LSF=Sierra: "What."
[01.05.2012 18:06:52] Death: freeboy was killed by an NPC
[01.05.2012 18:06:58] CONSOLE: Possible cheating detected: Corporate.Perdition
[01.05.2012 18:07:33] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: I am Lt Clark of the primaries as well as these two. Apparently you have been using LN ships for some "fieldwork"
[01.05.2012 18:08:16] =LSF=Sierra: "The request of the assistance of the battle cruiser was asked at Manhattan with the Nephilim there."
[01.05.2012 18:08:30] =LSF=Sierra: "If you'd like to lay a complaint you can go through the DIA."
[01.05.2012 18:08:48] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Well this is use of naval ships to shoot civilians on your orders
[01.05.2012 18:09:05] =LSF=Sierra: "If you would remember Jeremy, you ordered the same thing."
[01.05.2012 18:09:11] =LSF=Sierra: "Now.. go through the DIA."
[01.05.2012 18:09:16] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: Pardon?
[01.05.2012 18:09:43] =LSF=Sierra: "As you said that if it continued, doing what it was doing, ramming the ship it was to be destroyed."
[01.05.2012 18:09:52] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Yes but going through Those lines will mean getting all our bosses involved. Also didnt you jest get a new director
[01.05.2012 18:09:54] =LSF=Sierra: "Which on that order of yours, Whats his name did.'
[01.05.2012 18:10:02] Gotti.Shipping)Chronos~: greetings
[01.05.2012 18:10:07] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: If you'll allow me to clarify.
[01.05.2012 18:10:24] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: McKenzie, Sierra lets stay on topic
[01.05.2012 18:10:25] =LSF=Sierra: "And I've said all I have and am going to say.. go through the DIA."
[01.05.2012 18:11:19] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: In that case lets ignore the whole you ordering the deaths of civilian and the fact you were using naval ships
[01.05.2012 18:11:24] Death: Jedermann was killed by an NPC
[01.05.2012 18:11:28] =LSF=Raven: Uhm.. You could've let the Civilian ship keep ramming the Juggernaut and it wouldn't have gotten anywhere..
[01.05.2012 18:12:05] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Both our agencies just got through this whole debacle with jurisdiction, then one of your ships shooting transports in Virgini
[01.05.2012 18:12:12] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Virginia*
[01.05.2012 18:12:36] =LSF=Raven: What Transport was it?
[01.05.2012 18:12:38] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Now answer me this what gives you the right to order Naval personnel
[01.05.2012 18:12:38] =LSF=Sierra: "Mine is a agency.. yours is a military."
[01.05.2012 18:12:48] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Don't get sematical
[01.05.2012 18:12:55] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Answer the question
[01.05.2012 18:13:08] =LSF=Sierra: "And as I've said.. go through the DIA.. I've had enough of you trying to push me."
[01.05.2012 18:13:09] =LSF=Sierra: "Sierra over and out."
[01.05.2012 18:13:39] =LSF=Raven: Hmm.. I guess there is no right for LSF to order others around unless they were given command. I'm sorry..
[01.05.2012 18:13:47] Death: Jedermann was killed by an NPC
[01.05.2012 18:13:48] Death: Zorz was killed by an NPC
[01.05.2012 18:13:59] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: I cant say I'm surprised. Raven please for the love of god. Tell your buddies at the LSF to stop meddling
[01.05.2012 18:14:18] =LSF=Raven: I'll do what I can..
[01.05.2012 18:15:11] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Jeremy, Alan go back to what you were doing i gotta write this up
[01.05.2012 18:15:21] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: Yessir.
[01.05.2012 18:15:23] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: Oh.
[01.05.2012 18:15:24] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: What the?
[01.05.2012 18:15:25] [LN]-Jeremy.McKenzie.: Hold on.
[01.05.2012 18:15:27] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: I see a mountain of paperwork when i land
[01.05.2012 18:15:34] =LSF=Raven: Sorry..
[01.05.2012 18:15:38] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: Persue?
[01.05.2012 18:15:46] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Do it
[01.05.2012 18:15:56] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: Gating ahead to West Point.
[01.05.2012 18:16:06] =LSF=Raven: Good luck..
[01.05.2012 18:16:10] Traffic control alert: Furoth has requested to dock
[01.05.2012 18:16:14] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: I'm sure you two can handle things
[01.05.2012 18:16:19] [LN]-Jorzza.Clark: Clark Out.
[01.05.2012 18:16:23] Traffic control alert: [LN]-Jorzza.Clark has requested to dock
[01.05.2012 18:16:41] =LSF=Raven: Take care Clark..
[01.05.2012 18:16:50] [LN]-Alan.Polstari: Frick, that was a bad move.
Now this is in a long line of incidents with our forces. I'm going to repeat two things. Please stop meddling and what gives you the right to order around our ships. especially to shoot civilians. Now even though there have been instances of wrong doings on both sides this infighting has got to stop. There have been stand offs, yes, disagreements, yes. But when one of your fellows both in the secondaries and primaries of your forces are shooting transports or civilians or ordering our ships around. It has caused massive distrust between our two organizations. We are meant to be allies damn it! yet nowadays its all infighting. Could you imagine how our enemies could use it to their advantage. So as a Repair Ship Pilot who is involved with Search and Rescue of escape pods and the like, please don't have us repair ship guys pulling in mangled bodies of friends.
COMM ID: [color=#99FFFF]Fleet Admiral David Hale TARGET ID:LSF personnel, LN personnel SUBJECT:Zoner vessel and subsequent argument ENCRYPTION:High PRIORITY:Medium
Hale here.
Standard proceedure regarding Zoner capital vessels in Liberty space,, is to first request they leave, and escort them from our space. Only then, if they prove unresponsive or uncooperative, do you open fire on them. That seems to me like simple common sense. It's also the proceedure by which such incidents have been handled for a number of years.
I would be interested to know if the agent in question skipped the first bit, and went straight for the guns.
Ordering the destruction of a rather small civilian vessel seems a little... Odd. There are situations in which destroying such a vessel may be appropriate, however I would like to know the exact circumstances surrounding this.
Furthermore, it is worth pointing out to the LSF that they do not have the legal abilty to issue orders to the Liberty secondary fleet. Particularly orders which may well contravene standard sirius law.
Recieving an LSF perspective upon this would be more than helpful, as part of our mutual duty is holding one another to account regarding incidents such as this.
Mr Clark, Mr McKenzie... I will take the issue from here. Please ensure any relevant materials end up on my desk.
WE are extensively reading the reports from your fine Officers, though for me a few things have popped up for myself. But I will be leaving those for a later date. Currently I am just ensuring access to the communications is granted to our two agents that were involved so that they can place down there point's of views of what happened in detail.
Both our Agents will be with you shortly.
Sayanora
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Access Staff Database, extending communication
allowances to Raven and Sierra Operating agents.
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Whilst at Manhattan, I was conferring with Agent Raven, when what caught my eye, was a Zoner Nephilim exited the trade-lane. the LNS-Gorganus was in the same vicinity at this time. It claimed to be lost and that the captain seemed allergic to maps. how ever, it was requested to leave and hurry in its movement as it dwindled around, Finally after a headache of a time it finally made it to west point with the Gorganus, Agent Raven and me in tow, it tried to chance course by playing dumb and tried to head to the Pennsylvania system which the lane was disrupted at this point. The Civilian vessel in question while the craft was trying to get into position started to ram the ship some how causing it to spin in a literal sense. The naval fighter as was stated had destroyed the ship that time without an order from the LSF how ever, I will admit the fighter came back heading back towards the Nephilim class ship, as a judgmental error, I told the Navy ship to do away with it, to prevent a repeat.
Finally in California, the Nephilim then Cruised up to seventeen kilometers before the LNS-Gorganus and my self were able to halt its progress from going straight up, it claimed it didn't know where the break was and then became hysterical. After fifteen or so minutes of trying to regain its cooperation, it fired two salvo's of mortars at the LNS-Gorganus and one at a fights class before the green light to engage was permitted.
Due to be the leading LSF agent on the scene, Raven, was only able to follow me and for this I claim full responsibility and what ever consequence lays a head
I'm sorry for telling the people what to do when the Zoner was busy shooting people around me and gave the order to shoot it when he downed my shields.. When we left the California jump gate, he activated cruise engines and started flying up straight, and we asked him to stop but the Zoner replied that it couldn't in which case we stopped it with disruptors.
After that, I wanted it to lower its shields so it could be taken into custody for not being co-operative at which point the Zoner said it didn't know what button lowered the shields. It started firing weapons in all directions, hitting Ebony_Hawk, a Battlecruiser called LNS-Gorganus and myself. I then game the order to take it down so no one else would get hurt at which the vessel knew exactly what it was doing and destroyed the Goranus and Kronos.Aldemiri who was another Zoner from my IFF readings. My justifications for giving the order is because it kept shooting us for no reason.. and it was putting everyone in danger..
After a while of gunfire, it activated a cloaking device and fled.
I'm sorry if I can't be anymore helpful with this situation.. We did try to make Zoner leave at first.. but then things got out of hand when it engaged us..
there's two points of view on this matter. After I had a look on every little piece of evidence and the statements made I barely can see any order given to a Liberty Navy secondary by one of our agents.
When it comes down to the destruction of a civilian vessel, well, that's something not necessary at all but justifiable. Any pilot flying in the house of Liberty, no matter of his origin, age or sex has to follow the simple flight procedures but that's not to be discussed here.
In the end there's been a little misunderstanding along with some affront. We should be able to solve this on a mature level. So regarding that Fleet Admiral Hale and our Command directorate being involved in this really is way out of line.
For those pilots involved in the reported incident: Finish your shift, meet in a local bar or pub, drink yourself an ale and get over this.
Secretary Mosby
Department of Internal Affairs
Liberty Security Force
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