If its an AW trader, why does it not have AW tags? :unsure:
(if a name change is pending then, ummm things get awkward, lol :wacko: )
So let me see if i got this straight, TC attacked an apparently freelance trader, freelancer switched to AW char and sought revenge.
My opinion, the mistake is Red's since he should of choosen a non-AW char to get revenge with. If the freelancer is supposed to be an AW trader, the mistake is still Red's for not having proper tags for the trader.
My recommendation, Red should be penialized for his actions and not AW, he was acting on his own accord rather than representing his faction's interests.
If Red had a non-faction fighter he would have used it. But since his only fighter was an AW fighter he had to use it. Plus if the TC want to go harrassing traders during this cease-fire I might seem fit to cancel it all together due to the TC's terrorist activities.
Dab,Apr 9 2006, 09:20 PM Wrote:If Red had a non-faction fighter he would have used it. But since his only fighter was an AW fighter he had to use it. Plus if the TC want to go harrassing traders during this cease-fire I might seem fit to cancel it all together due to the TC's terrorist activities.
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This is crap dab, and you know it.
If he didn't have a non-aw fighter, he should have let it go PERIOD.
And since when did TC's terrorist activities count as a reason to kill a cease fire? You and Lance agreed as long as TC/SF didn't attack an AW member (TAGGED by the way) the cease fire remained in effect...
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As I am just reading this now, I am going to take full responsibility for what i've done. Please do not scold those who take in my defense, and for further inquiry so this will not happen in the future. Is it only pirate factions (ie TC Phantom, Cylons etc.) are allowed to attack untagged players? Furthurmore, as an RP trader, I must ask how the SF will take that their allies pirating those civillian vessels, piloted by the people of Sirius they are supposed to be protecting.
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JnD,Apr 10 2006, 01:59 AM Wrote:As I am just reading this now, I am going to take full responsibility for what i've done. Please do not scold those who take in my defense, and for further inquiry so this will not happen in the future. Is it only pirate factions (ie TC Phantom, Cylons etc.) are allowed to attack untagged players? Furthurmore, as an RP trader, I must ask how the SF will take that their allies pirating those civillian vessels, piloted by the people of Sirius they are supposed to be protecting.
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that was the old SF, Im sorry to say that ship has sailed and sunk
Nightfall,Apr 10 2006, 01:03 AM Wrote:Red-XIII told me that his trader (CCL-Zodiac) was attacked by [TC]Missingno. WITHOUT ANY GIVEN WARNING
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You don't need to give people warnings.
Last week I was peacefully flying through Delta with my Phantom Character (ok, so I was killing BH's) when I noticed a player on my HUD who had a [P] tag.
I'd been told this meant pirate, (the tags were done so people could see enemies easily) so I said "hi" on the system channel and was ignored. Then they opened fire on me and destroyed me. WITH NO WARNING
So I tried to do some missions and stay away from this player, they came looking for me and did it again.
At the time the player's explaination that his pirate character 'hated everyone' seemed odd. Now I know it was Dab doing his 'hunt the phantoms thing' again, in a non-AW character.
JnD,Apr 10 2006, 06:59 AM Wrote:Is it only pirate factions (ie TC Phantom, Cylons etc.) are allowed to attack untagged players?
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From what I've seen / heard / had happen ANYONE can attack anyone else whenever they like (within the PvP rules that is).
Regardless of whether or not the victim has a tag.
This is why several people use the [P] tag to let people know they are a pirate, plus most pirate characters I've seen (in pirate factions and as freelance pirates) in my Phantom characters come up as white (neutral) to me which is strange as all the pirate factions love me. So the other pirates should be showing as green (friendly) Most of the phantoms I've seen do show up as green.
it is (or was) written somewhere that you should give a warning b4 attacking (pirating) and may I remind Wolfpack98, in Dab's thread (i thinkk it was there, not sure but I'll take a look if asked) where he makes that "outrageous announcement" of attacking traders in Bretonia, you stated that you will punish EVERYONE who attacks an UNTAGGED char/trader I don't remember the exact words, but this was the conclusion your post left. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I didn't understand Red, I thought he killed Missingno. with his trader so my reaction to the news he told me was ":lol", otherwise I would have ORDERED him to post a "ceasefire violation" ASAP! I just didn't want to start another flaming/bickering as I'm personally sick of it and since I thought Missingno. got what he was looking for with a flashlight - fair trade! Case dismissed.
The sad thing is that Loose, VTec and I were on, together with Red and Alpha. Out of five AWs, 3 of them high officers, no one bothered to ask what it was all about. Instead, there we have Missingno. go on the forum and plays victim to his own game - I think he has no excuse whatsoever.
So, Missingno. what do you have to say in your defense? To Hood - a personal comment: I think that Missingno. didn't quite tell you everything that happened. But I liked the honor thing, only which side's honor do you question? Red and Alpha are my people and I try teaching them the best I can, only reason Red used AW fighter is that he didn't have a private one. I will see to it being corrected personally. True, he should have asked permission to use the AW one, but, ask yourself - In his place (being a hot-blooded 15 year old) and getting pawned like that, would you not seek revenge? So, the questionable honor here is not AW's nor Red's - I refuse to mention names here, but rememer the California Incident.
In conclusion to all this Red's only guilt is that he was, being just a young padawan, fell under the influence of the Dark Side :yoda:
If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God? - from 'Nightfall' by I. Asimov The Outcasts consider Siniestre Nube a sacred place for several reasons. Early explorers discovered a jumphole within the depths of the cloud that leads to a strange world of ringed stars and strange craft. All ships in the burrial ground are placed facing that hole to honor the Alien Spirits. - An Outcast rumor
Quote:Cylon Empire also declares itself a dignitary to the ceasefire.
The standings I origonaly laid out to my members at the time, (tho we have had a a cupple of new members since then) was we would aid a [AW] member in a existing battle, we would simply be there in backup sence. Picking fights with members of the [TC] and [SF].
However I do belive that we got more involved in this war then I origonaly hoped and to save confusion.
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I AM AGREEING THAT THE CYLON EMPIRE IS GOING UNDER THE CEASE FIRE AGAINST [SF] AND [TC]
This dose not mean we wont be doing our pirating else where in other systems it just means that we wont attack [SF] and [TC] for the time beeing.
However it dose mean when the cease fire ends we will be going to war with both fullynow instead of just beeing there for [AW] as a last defence back feature.
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Nightfall, As acting propaganda officer for [TC], my statement was made with the
available facts. Now I see that I wasn't in informed of everything. But I see the crime
now seems to have been compounded by the fact that it was nothing to do with [AW]
as such. Though the pilot in question has now apologized.
Lets move on now gentlemen. The rules have been quoted again.
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