house civ nerfage

[Ursus]

Very simple:

1) House civ ships should be green to all factions of that house, without request.
2) House civ ships should be red to all other factions, except 25% to freelancer and pirate. Factions can spend a nerf slot to get better access, freelancers just gotta suck it up.

This makes ships a perk for the house and useful as balance again. Right now you dont have point 1 so its not a perk at all. And right now freelancer can use any house ship, which is just wrong--we see Gallic Eclipse and Kusari Explorer in Bretonia, just becasue its freelancer behind the stick.

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[Markus_Janus]

I would completely agree if there were a house citizen ID to go with it.

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[Ursus]

I want some kind of house civilian ID or IFF too but (1) its a can of worms [is it ID or IFF? what do you do about house miner? how do you set nerf on IFF?] (2) and I dont want that to roadblock this

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[Paranoia]

freelancer can use any house ship

Agree with you. That is wrong.

[Miranda]

I think that makes sense, though the Kusari Explorer is THE civilian GB until 4.87, at which point we'll (supposedly) have the CTE-style GB to replace it as the civilian GB.

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[Ursus]

I think that makes sense, though the Kusari Explorer is THE civilian GB until 4.87, at which point we'll (supposedly) have the CTE-style GB to replace it as the civilian GB.

freelancer shouldnt even gunboat... use transports or join a faction and take the ZOI limits

BUT the proposal as stated in post 1 says they can still use it, with 25% nerf.

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[Hone]

Whats wrong with FLs flying house civ ships?

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[Ursus]

Nothing wrong with it just take a penalty for it. Right now Freelancer can fly a house ship with no nerf while the house factions cant. That's dumb x2.

Want a no-nerf ship with freelancer? Okay, whats wrong with FLs flying generic civilian ships? CTE, BW, Renzu are all there, plus a few more. Why do they need the house ships when nobody else can fly them without penalty?

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[Hone]

Nothing wrong with it just take a penalty for it. Right now Freelancer can fly a house ship with no nerf while the house factions cant. That's dumb x2.

Want a no-nerf ship with freelancer? Okay, whats wrong with FLs flying generic civilian ships? CTE, BW, Renzu are all there, plus a few more. Why do they need the house ships when nobody else can fly them without penalty?

If NOBODY else can fly them without penalty, thats a bug, and doubtless the devs will fix it. Thats no reason to nerf them for FLs though.

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[Echo 7-7]

Nothing wrong with it just take a penalty for it. Right now Freelancer can fly a house ship with no nerf while the house factions cant. That's dumb x2.

Want a no-nerf ship with freelancer? Okay, whats wrong with FLs flying generic civilian ships? CTE, BW, Renzu are all there, plus a few more. Why do they need the house ships when nobody else can fly them without penalty?

Check your facts. FLs take a 10% loss on House Civilian ships.

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/techcompat_table.php


Edit: @Hone, House Corps take no nerf on House Civ.

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