(01-27-2013, 12:59 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: I am allowed but not without being "mutilated" or insulted, using PR when it suits navies.
Anyhow, time for a new treaty, the fact that a zoner ship needs to exist in penn which it DOES, should not be limited, esp when it is not a normal zoner.
On the same token, I might as well blast any navy in bering, or insult them, or even better ! fine them! Parking costs money!
Seriously now, you lads have enough trouble already with the criminals, you don't need rebelious zoners blasting navies in alaska, Or "Zone-21" wte, cuz u are already losing there every day, which is unfortunete, but i guess the criminals are right about one thing, corruption and differences is in the heart of liberty navy.
I thought Zoners were peaceful folks that want to be neutral, to keep this stance with people you'll have to sacrifice some freedom to keep a certain amount of Freedom.
The way you take things wouldn't be very Zoner'ish, but no matter, even if Caps were to be allowed in penny, you'd still have to cross Liberty space to reach Bethlehem. And in this Liberty space, caps aren't allowed.
You live in Liberty occupied space, so you'll have to do with their laws.
(01-27-2013, 12:59 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: I am allowed but not without being "mutilated" or insulted, using PR when it suits navies.
Anyhow, time for a new treaty, the fact that a zoner ship needs to exist in penn which it DOES, should not be limited, esp when it is not a normal zoner.
On the same token, I might as well blast any navy in bering, or insult them, or even better ! fine them! Parking costs money!
Seriously now, you lads have enough trouble already with the criminals, you don't need rebelious zoners blasting navies in alaska, Or "Zone-21" wte, cuz u are already losing there every day, which is unfortunete, but i guess the criminals are right about one thing, corruption and differences is in the heart of liberty navy.
I can't decide, that are you joking or just played too much.
It'd be cool to see a nice swing about it. All Nephilims to be recalled from their deep-space journeys, like a thousand of them. Then, to siege Manhattan, to get a free way to Bethlehem.
Everyone's (apparently) happy because of teh mighty zonur fleet defending Lolberty from the "corrupt", the pirates, and from Gallia.
(01-27-2013, 12:40 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Like a caveman using a flashlight as a hammer, you guys missed the whole point.
ID is meant to be above all, conflict betwen zoi or rep or house laws do appear but zoner's can't land in house space except zoner bases, which includes Bethlehem, but it looks like the ln signed a treaty with someone who was unelected by anyone, who probably died and by far forgotten.
I suggest they change the ID to restrict Cruiser Vessels and above to visit Penn, they did a lot of work pointing out the specific locations where zoners CAN land ( like hood )but Bethlehem ... No.. I can't see anything about bethlehem sorry ).
Until that happends, Zoners can land at zoner bases, wherever it is, whether it is inconvienient to some navies.
Also, I accept people's opinions, but People dont just fly zoner dreads for armoror guns, thats how it is supposed to be INRP
I think you misunderstand the difference between IDs and roleplay laws. Your ID does not need to tell you what roleplay laws allow you to do and what not, it only tells you what server rules allow you to do. You're allowed by server rules to fly your Zoner cap through house space, but that doesn't mean it's allowed by roleplay laws of Liberty. Pirates are also allowed to pirate in house space by server rules but that doesn't mean the Navy and police can't hunt them for it.
What you can do by ID =/= What's allowed by roleplay laws of a house
You are indeed allowed to dock any Zoner ship (including caps) on Bethlehem server rule wise. But in order to do so you need to fly your ship through Liberty. Liberty doesn't permit foreign caps into its systems, so you won't be able to lawfully fly your cap to Bethlehem. If you do want to, either wait for an official [LN] player to log on and ask for permission, or prepare to get clusterfried by a lot of dreadnoughts.
Edit: We're all just repeating ourselves. If Tel doesn't understand, let him try getting his "new treaty".
I'm looking forward to it, since you dont have enough time to permit a "safe" zone where we could travel without hurting your "feelings".
I can't tell you how much insults I get from "official" navy members", I'm just looking for the cyan photon hitting my ship, then hell breaks loose.
Why would Liberty permit Zoner caps a "safe zone" through which they can travel to Bethlehem? What actually legit inRP reason do Zoners have for flying caps to Beth? And don't you understand why Liberty isn't cool with having HUGE foreign capital ships in its space?
I do, but I reckon you have enough time to come up with other zones, just not this one.
Legit RP? Incase you have forgotten, Penn is where everything begins, and bethelhem is considered among zoners as a "hotel" to people who wish to go out into a vacation.
I can go with this all day, and if there is a Zoner base somewhere, it is meant to host ZONERS.