Okay, I would argue today in this debate.. ugh I mean thread, that not everything is fair and makes sense, but this doesn't make sense on a " are you insane " level.
Now, I am no fan of The Order, but I am a fan when it comes to pewing nomads ( which I find the best RP in this server ).
The faction is dedicated to defeat the nomads, and yet its shipline looks very similiar to my troubles.
The order is screwed in every aspect.
Ossie was OP in 85 no doubt about it, but nerfing it and calling it a day off with increased reverse speed doesn't make it even.
Order's history - current ( in a nutshell )
- Loss of toldeo
- Ships are broken ( esp geb )
- Alaska is now "Officialy" Liberty
- Order re-allocated to Omicron-mu
- BHG CORE is active then ever
It looks bad lads, I reckon the devs figured this by now but any plans to help the order is a futile exercise from what i've seen.
Solution - keep playing for the Order.
Those changes must be a kind of circumstances players shall be forced to play in.
Consider the stuff as IRP circumstances. Players shall not be Almighty to be able to change scenarios as they wish in such scales. It is a lore.
O gosh... more about how Disco is broken again?
I don't see how the ships are broken and what not. Really.
The only thing that changed that i hate is that the Order cant go to Alaska anymore, or some I'm told. I remember when there used to be major fights going on there between the order and LNS and LN. Now there barely is any.
(03-04-2013, 02:05 PM)Swallow Wrote: Solution - keep playing for the Order.
Those changes must be a kind of circumstances players shall be forced to play in.
Consider the stuff as IRP circumstances. Players shall not be Almighty to be able to change scenarios as they wish in such scales. It is a lore.
True, but you have to agree it's kinda of a downer if you are an order pilot, got a voice telling you to choose another faction that is way more stable.
Can't pinpoint the exact problem, I realize that eventully players shape the faction but the faction's info/tech/resources reflects a lot and it does matter.
(03-04-2013, 02:05 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: O gosh... more about how Disco is broken again?
I don't see how the ships are broken and what not. Really.
The only thing that changed that i hate is that the Order cant go to Alaska anymore, or some I'm told. I remember when there used to be major fights going on there between the order and LNS and LN. Now there barely is any.
Not really, disco is better than ever, but when something goes up one thing goes down, question is if its "even" or dare I say "tolerable".
Btw, ships are broken as hell, Geb is a practice target, ossie is really a long range bs incapable of surviving close enoounters, and in numbers.. it is weak.
Regarding alaska.. yeah.. i miss those days, but minor is dead so lib can claim alaska .. wich brings me to the point where order.. is screwed?
The Order has a new home planet and it sells Basic Alloy for $50. So they're already better off than Corsairs, Outcasts, ... you get my point. The only thing they don't have is an export.
(03-04-2013, 02:25 PM)Hasteric Wrote: So a faction is less powerful in-roleplay. Okay. Sounds cool and dynamic and all that.
One of your main opponents' activity is picking up again.
And this makes the Order less fun to play.. because?
I enjoy order bud even with the current status, I nearly suggest some minor changes to its tech, or better yet, storyline.
When you spend some time in the order belt, you understand the problems, and im not the only one in this, I like it hard cuz it makes it more challenging, but OC's in Delta + Cores with those ships are way too big to comprehend.
It's not a complaint thread ( But I bet it sounds like it doesn't it? )
(03-04-2013, 02:25 PM)Hasteric Wrote: So a faction is less powerful in-roleplay. Okay. Sounds cool and dynamic and all that.
One of your main opponents' activity is picking up again.
And this makes the Order less fun to play.. because?
I enjoy order bud even with the current status, I nearly suggest some minor changes to its tech, or better yet, storyline.
When you spend some time in the order belt, you understand the problems, and im not the only one in this, I like it hard cuz it makes it more challenging, but OC's in Delta + Cores with those ships are way too big to comprehend.
It's not a complaint thread ( But I bet it sounds like it doesn't it? )
Then do not comprehend, pick a LF and go assasinating nomads.