(05-03-2013, 09:53 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: So you want to be an agressive Zoner, probably in one of their caps? (Otherwise, a Freelancer ID would do fine).
... that would not get an approval from me personally, but feel free to post an SRP for that reason. Zoners are not Order, or Core. They aren't a paramilitary. They are CIVILIANS who choose to live outside the bounds and influence of house space. That is their role in this roleplaying game.
Not a huge fan of caps, and every society must have a more radical group in it Ive had that conversation with different people and I respect your judgment, but less we give the false impression that it has anything to do with zonerx3, not even close.
(05-03-2013, 09:53 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: So you want to be an agressive Zoner, probably in one of their caps? (Otherwise, a Freelancer ID would do fine).
a freelancer May not engage these nomads. Also with self defense or If They are hired for a bounty. Which must be stated on the forums. If the freelancer gets shot, zoners May not help defending it As Its not zoner ship or transport.
For me this is 2 sided. I play As zoner and As nomad. But zoners Its like AD stated They are not a MILITAIRY. What happens now you See a huge load of zoners with caps flying around. And first They Made the mistake to engage nomads. They stopt doing That instead They farm nomads with Those ships. Which inRP must make them hostile towards outcasts in a way too. You cannot do both. Also another thing What is Done now. The fly along with 1 order/bhg core ship. (Not even to meantion about ai) and well order attacks and because a nomad Will defend himself zoners shoot to defend the order. Which is Also a violation within the zoner id. As An orde snub/cap is not a transport. Or a zoner vessel They defend.
Also tel Aviv. What happens after the encounter you had with a specific faction/player May not be the reason for a crusade On That player/faction. Zoners May defend themselves but May not engage for example 1 hour later someone who is just encountering you for the first time. And even If Its the Same one you need to rp again and you are restricted again with the id you Carry at That time.
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(05-03-2013, 09:53 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: So you want to be an agressive Zoner, probably in one of their caps? (Otherwise, a Freelancer ID would do fine).
a freelancer May not engage these nomads. Also with self defense or If They are hired for a bounty. Which must be stated on the forums. If the freelancer gets shot, zoners May not help defending it As Its not zoner ship or transport.
For me this is 2 sided. I play As zoner and As nomad. But zoners Its like AD stated They are not a MILITAIRY. What happens now you See a huge load of zoners with caps flying around. And first They Made the mistake to engage nomads. They stopt doing That instead They farm nomads with Those ships. Which inRP must make them hostile towards outcasts in a way too. You cannot do both. Also another thing What is Done now. The fly along with 1 order/bhg core ship. (Not even to meantion about ai) and well order attacks and because a nomad Will defend himself zoners shoot to defend the order. Which is Also a violation within the zoner id. As An orde snub/cap is not a transport. Or a zoner vessel They defend.
Also tel Aviv. What happens after the encounter you had with a specific faction/player May not be the reason for a crusade On That player/faction. Zoners May defend themselves but May not engage for example 1 hour later someone who is just encountering you for the first time. And even If Its the Same one you need to rp again and you are restricted again with the id you Carry at That time.
You talk about the event happend last night, which they had enough rp to ram all of you ( was it naruu who killed pheonix zoners before this thing went through? ) - besides, the good thing about zoners is that I can always jump to iota, get shot and have the ability to shoot you. That's not what its all about, its about nomads doing stuff in 74, i don't like it, but then you don't like us flying in iota, thats retribution for you. Everyone, including me must be held to account for our actions, the more you riot scream shout and destroy zoners, in 74, there will always be those who will destroy you the minute they see you, you are nomad, get used to it. Ever wondered why this doesn't happend with other factions but nomads? Im sure you can figure that out yourself. Before they released the nomad ID, Ive never seen nomads in 74, you are k'hara, which inrp should be their leaders, if you don't like zoners killing nomads, dont kill zoners, but then.. its in the nature of the nomads to kill, and its in the nature of humans, regardless of the values they hold, to shoot back. Trust me, I can simply ask the elders of crete to ban a corsair pilot shooting zoners, instead of shooting him myself, but you guys dont have "elders" you guys dont have a "comm" channel, so we either let you go on doing what your doing, or to put a stop to it. I rather blow you up, even if it means a "war" - good, war, more fun, and even if you had a "comm" channel or a fancy variation on that theme, I would still blow you because ugh well, in every society there must be a more radical movement.
(05-03-2013, 10:29 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: You talk about the event happend last night, which they had enough rp to ram all of you ( was it naruu who killed pheonix zoners before this thing went through? ) - besides, the good thing about zoners is that I can always jump to iota, get shot and have the ability to shoot you.
Naaru? Hmm i think i was not there even but ok. Still it makes you good to hunt us within iota then? hmm.. You know how many systems there are in between right? You use ORDER/BHG to hunt nomads. Its not a MILITAIRY. To self defend i would say OK. But at Iota its not self defense anymore is it? Its called attacking. are 2 different things. Defense and attack (engage). do not forget that.
(05-03-2013, 10:29 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: That's not what its all about, its about nomads doing stuff in 74, i don't like it, but then you don't like us flying in iota, thats retribution for you.
Hmm doing stuff in 74.. i recall last week i did rp and because i was shot by some Zoner npc and defended myself i got shot at with 2 fighters, 2 bs ships and a corvo cruiser? I managed to escape alive but If you say thats good for a zoner to do.. hmm. NPC its a nice excuse maybe, but common only thing you provoke with such SRP will be more hunting nomads with less rp needed and basicly every zoner can assist you while you did start the engagement.
But then again we have here also a reason to buff the nomad weapons. Or at least place some more defensive npc turrets near the jumpholes. As in your case you use ships which are not meant to active hunt the nomads. I seriously hope the nomad worlds will get as dangerous or maybe even more dangerous as the Gallic npc spawns. because they can tear you apart. As basicly those systems are meant to be DANGEROUS for non nomads. Lately you see even battleships with ease flying around there. like its some sightseeing with some Zoner ships. If i where one of the devs i would double at least the npc spawns for the next 4.87 version. place 1 turret more near the zeta - iota jumphole and on the iota side where there is only 1 i would also place 2 more. and the jumphole to o-99 within iota i would also add some of those turrets. guess most of this nonsense would be over then. And it would be dangerous again as it was intended. So basicly the buffing of the plain nomad guns would not be needed. But this gentlemen.. is a whole other story..
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