Everything looks Ok,
Though the diplomacy might need changing, but that can all be worked out through ingame play.
Well good luck to you guys and I hope everything works out well.
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Heh, I just finished getting the thread unlocked (much thanks to the moderators) and redoing the main post and people are already posting.
Ok, up until now the main writeup and the thread itself haven't been really clear. So I'm going to do my best to clear it all up and address any further issues. I've rewritten the faction information as I've been meaning to for a while now, and I'll quote questions/points that present very valid points. And yes, I may be repeating some of what was said, but I'd rather be as clear as possible to avoid any confusion.
Also, if anyone missed it in the main post here it is again:
"Note that this is an introduction and feedback thread for the time being. Questions and opinions are welcome. I'll do my best to answer them, but the answers will be OORP. While we have the base design and RP down, we are aware that it's not flawless."
' Wrote:If they did just arrive in sirius, its unlikely they know that many factions. Id assume they would be neutral with everyone.
True, but there are two reasons we aren't. One, RP-wise we are establishing relations with the Outcasts, which of course effects our diplomacies. Two, our ID no matter which we choose would prohibit such neutrality, and we don't need to submit a special RP request for all members while the faction is temporarily ignorant of others. The way we run this is when we encounter a ship on the sensors we treat it as a "Potentially hostile contact" if red or "Unknown contact" if not red. It won't be until we RP or the ship engages that we'll treat it as an enemy/friendly, unless we've met that ship/faction before.
' Wrote:Yesterday I found myself talking about little Green Aliens hostile to the Nomads with sharp teeth, today I find myself reading about Aliens, but...not little green ones hostile to nomads with sharp teeth.
Now my question, Are you humanoids?
Heh, no, not little green men.:DAs for the nomads, we have yet to encounter them, but it's likely that they will be on the unfriendly side.
In answer to your question, yes. In fact, some members may be human.
' Wrote:the only Aliens that are Cannon are nomads.
I NO WANT CLICHE
Well with all due respect, if you're going into cannon, much of disco is wrong then (and new things do happen mate). As for the ZEF, please don't knock it until you try it. Our faction may be aliens, but we're not the classic 'destroy all humans' type, and our RP is pretty much the same as if it were a human faction.
' Wrote:Yes, there are a little many alien factions.
Really, if omicron alpha was the solar system, we would have what...
Humans,
Nomads,
this new faction,
Phantoms
Consortium (I think? thyre pretty much aliens by the way they RP etc.)
A little many?
Even now we should be cutting down on alien factions.
Whats wrong with humans?
Yes, ZEF are alien, however we are not like the Nomads, nor the Phatoms, nor the Consortium. Those factions are all pretty much 'destroy all humans' types (no offense to them, though I don't know a lot about the Consortium). As for humans, nothing wrong with a human faction, but would our RP be any different? I mean, if ZEF were humans from outside Sirius, they would still be called aliens, and the RP would still be the same.
Also, we'll be present more in Omicron 80 than alpha as it's where we've chosen to base ourselves. Unless we are RPing with outcasts/smugglers in alpha.
' Wrote:So are they going to be a stereotypical "we hate humans" kinda thing?
Disco has yet to have an "inferior to humans" alien race. I think it would be interesting to see Rped. I dislike the whole aliens are monsters killing everyone... so...
In answer to the question, no. The ZEF don't hate humans.
As for the 'inferior to humans', heh, well, that's all in opinion, but we aren't the 'monster killing everyone' types, and we don't spout off like we're better than everyone.
' Wrote:We won't go around killing everyone, but we will be very hostile to talk to.....
Not true mate. Being hostile to talk to isn't our RP (though you know that now, there are others reading that don't), barring enemy factions of course.....or those that purposely insult us.
' Wrote:hmm... where have i read that before.. i just cant put it together.. damn.. OHWAIT. i know!
the HF faction status post, ofcourse! lookie, they even called themselves SAD! awesome. Deja vu, stolen ideas, or great minds thinking alike?:rolleyes:
Heh! That's my bad. I came up with the base idea of a Special Ops squadron and their operations (I know, not original, but what is nowadays), but didn't like to just have them called Special Ops. So a friend recommended Special Activities Division as the name. If I knew the squad was so similar Deja's I'd have looked for something else as a name (never read the HF status post either). As it is, if he wants me to change it just let me know and it'll be done.
' Wrote:Are you the same (something).ProjectX that shot an Arrow (Alberto.Conti) in low orbit of Malta? Because I don't exactly have the highest opinion of any "ProjectX" after that little incident.
' Wrote:Given such experiences, to say I'm a little wary of this faction would be an understatement.
Heh, not getting into that as it's between you and Kanga, but the character called ProjectX (which has several ships by the way) is neither a member nor representation of this faction.
To quote myself "While being of the same race as the ZEF, ProjectX isn't like them. Due to the experiments that were done to him, his attitude is generally hostile, and he likes to kill things...a lot.".
' Wrote:Why are you using outcast stuff? borderworld I can understand, ite probably better to use Borderworld than civillian. I just don't get the destroyer/gunship and outcast weapons...
Part of allying with them. The ZEF needs a capital ship to serve as a base of operations, research, etc, and the gunboats may be used by high-ranking members later (all of these limited in number of course, we aren't a cap-whoring faction). As of now we have yet to use the outcast ships, so that's waiting for the proper RP with the CoD, but we have already used the weapons. If a problem arises with that (I.E. the CoD decides against it), we can work something else out.
' Wrote:So...where do the Outcasts fit in with all of this? Like, why are we giving you Destroyers and Gunboats again?
Outcasts aren't just giving them to us. ZEF are negotiating with the CoD for the use of the ships and weaponry (and we will be regulating the dessie and gunboat usage). In return ZEF are offering any tactical assistance they can lend, whatever information that may be of use to the Outcasts if the ZEF finds any, and assistance in Cardamine trade once the ZEF establishes it's transports.
' Wrote:few questions.
1) What made you think the 101st and SoB would be more co-operative with you than the RoS? (well im guessing thats what you thought when you put us on friendly and the others on allied)
2) I would also like to know where you are getting your ships from, the only 3 places in outcast space that can build such ships are 81, 85 and Malta. 81 and 85 being the main two resource holders and to my knowledge me nor Epyon has agreed to any RP about funding a Alien race against humanity.
Well thats about all from me just now, don't take this the wrong way by the way. I just wanna know what the hell is going on.
No worries mate, they are good questions.
1. The diplomacies listed are based off of the SOB, independant Outcast, and 101st's diplomacies. It's more of a template than anything right now. Factions will be moved and edited on it as we meet them and establish relations.
2. The borderworlds fighters that we are currently using have been purchased at several locations (I.E. Eta, Malta, Orkney). And as stated, it's not 'funding a Alien race against humanity'.
' Wrote:Give yourselves a roleplay name, or some backing for the name please. It should make sense for the environment it is in.
Zodiac is the roleplay name for them. I'm not sure what else you mean mate.
' Wrote:[ESS] has been defunct for a long time now. Members log in every now and again and only wear the tag because no-one can be bothered changing it.
Ahh, thanks for the update n00bl3t. I'll remove them in a moment. If you notice anything else off please let me know.
Hmmmm, I'm not commenting on the background. But I can defiantly state that there is no way in Sirius that the Nomads/Wild will be neutral to yet another marauding party stomping through their home.
He did mention the diplomacy is based on events ingame. The ZEF might not have met the nomads/wild and haven't found what they need to be put down as. Though I do remember it being said that nomads/wild will be hostile.
Also for the name .. the name doesn't have to be a RP base for the faction ..
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# a belt-shaped region in the heavens on either side to the ecliptic; divided into 12 constellations or signs for astrological purposes
# (astrology) a circular diagram representing the 12 zodiacal constellations and showing their signs
Maybe its that? Zodiac is also a Russian 80s disco/synthpop band, but I doubt that's what they went for.
# a belt-shaped region in the heavens on either side to the ecliptic; divided into 12 constellations or signs for astrological purposes
# (astrology) a circular diagram representing the 12 zodiacal constellations and showing their signs
Maybe its that? Zodiac is also a Russian 80s disco/synthpop band, but I doubt that's what they went for.
HEH! No, isn't a Russian disco band. It's an adopted name from the local species in their region of space.
' Wrote:Hmmmm, I'm not commenting on the background. But I can defiantly state that there is no way in Sirius that the Nomads/Wild will be neutral to yet another marauding party stomping through their home.
' Wrote:He did mention the diplomacy is based on events ingame. The ZEF might not have met the nomads/wild and haven't found what they need to be put down as. Though I do remember it being said that nomads/wild will be hostile.
Yeah, we haven't met the Nomads yet 'in-person', and though we've run across a Wilde there was no RP.
As for the diplomacy, yeah, due to the ZEF's RP, I believe they wouldn't be too friendly.