The explanation KingG and Fuski gave it quite sound tbh. When 5th started it was basically just a bunch of organized lolwuts under a tag and they made me hate visiting Liberty just. However, as they've grown, they've transformed into something much better. A secondary fleet group that's pleasant to interact is rare, and I am thus grateful for the 5th in a way. These people who have taken their tag pass and are putting the faction down need to be removed from Disco.