(05-30-2014, 05:44 PM)Snak3 Wrote: Zoners on the other hand is majority, who believe they are untouchable inRP and ooRP and wants to keep OP status-quo.
not sure if that was directed at my comment, which was about the effects of the actions of a minority of zoners affecting the majority of zoners.
(05-30-2014, 05:44 PM)Snak3 Wrote: Zoners on the other hand is majority, who believe they are untouchable inRP and ooRP and wants to keep OP status-quo.
not sure if that was directed at my comment, which was about the effects of the actions of a minority of zoners affecting the majority of zoners.
Nah. I would have directed it by quote or by starting post as "Sabre, blablabla"
(05-30-2014, 12:28 PM)Pavel Wrote: Discovery RP 24/7 Rules
Lyth has my full support with those changes. Moreover, I'd restrict zoner transports bigger than 3.6k from flying with any sort of cargo inside House space. Zoner powertrading is clearly an abuse of overpowered ID. House trade routes are for corporations, not for some fringe space hippies.
Ami Zoner go home.
wait. zoners can, according to rules, still pass through house space with the new changes, right? sorry, but I didnt feel like reading up before posting, lel
(05-30-2014, 12:28 PM)Pavel Wrote: Discovery RP 24/7 Rules
Lyth has my full support with those changes. Moreover, I'd restrict zoner transports bigger than 3.6k from flying with any sort of cargo inside House space. Zoner powertrading is clearly an abuse of overpowered ID. House trade routes are for corporations, not for some fringe space hippies.
Ami Zoner go home.
wait. zoners can, according to rules, still pass through house space with the new changes, right? sorry, but I didnt feel like reading up before posting, lel
No. Because it would be abused just like it is right now.
"I am just watching this fight with my Colony Ship equipped with 22 turrets of neutrality" = " I am just passing through this system with Colony Ship equipped with 22 turrets of neutrality for 20 minutes already "
(05-30-2014, 02:12 PM)lIceColon Wrote: You know what? Screw this.
Everyone should have the freedom to play how they want to.
Stop bringing in new rules trying to limit other's enjoyment of the game, because contrary to your opinion, powertraders don't hurt anyone - they help the Disco economy by earning spacebucks to fund their other roleplay, you just don't like other people finding more efficient means of funding their cap8s than you did. Besides, if they are silent, either find a reason to shoot them and ruin their day or just ignore them like you do npcs.
Zoners - not just zoners but everybody should be able to go whereever they want, and the only consequences that should happen are inRP consequences , not this oorp limiting.
lolwut caps are not due to zoners who are fictional characters, but the lolwut players who play them, and instead of limiting zoners maybe you should remove all disco players who aren't up to your par of elitist "RP" in a player screening, because us players we're not here to have fun, we're here to be judged and limited in our fun, yea. Sure a zoner cap in house space is unbelievable, but so are your elitist "fair fight" duels and the fact that 800 years into the future and there still isn't complete human unity and universal peace yet.
If a zoner cap engages the navy in alaska, whose to say that is an impossible event? Whose to say it isn't a capital ship crowd funded by rich idiots who are dumb enough to violate liberty laws? It certainly is possible in real life, if rich southern secessionists build up a mini war machine in secret and they trespess on the US military grounds, it is a possible event despite it being incredibly stupid, but are we not allowed to rp incredibly stupid people? And the only consequence that should happen, is not to limit this possibility but to serve the only logical consequence there is: the destruction of that ship and that's it. If the particular player wants to be stupid, he should be allowed to after the reengagement rule wears off.
Let's say that 1/20 zoners are (inrp) stupid. That does not mean the playerbase has to be distributed that way, in fact the player base has never been distributed according to inrp porportions, so even though you might often encounter stupid zoners, it is not and should not be representative of the inrp zoner population. All your supposed evidence might be representative of the player base, but not of zoners.
I hate factionlancer, I hate that the rules are more and more oriented towards limiting people towards a archetypical roleplay rather than the individuality that some players want. I'm not gonna work for my enjoyment because I already do that in real life. I fly my ship how I want to with my inrp justifications, you don't have enough evidence against me.
INRP exclusiveness should not translate to OORP exclusiveness.
This ID change gets a big, juicy NOPE.
ROLEPLAY SERVER.
you know what? I have been in disco for almost one year, and I have never had more than 400 million on a ship at any given moment in time. I have only one BS, a cruiser , and few gunboats. yet, I am a respectable(not boasting, just saying in comparison to some people) member of this community. people care about what I say. Sabre, Major_Mayhem, Lyth, Void, Me, Pavel, and the staff, are trying to improve the standard of a faction that has fallen into dishonour due to a few like Tel.
I see anti zoner flood stuff every day. you may say, its flood. but then, why not LN, or Order, Or BHG, or Outcasts, Or BAF, or any other faction, for that matter? coz zoners are facing such a downtime. similar to the "Republican Jumping"posts. Many of us are trying to fix utterly broken stuff, like junkers trying to fix a marduk. we know its almost hopeless, yet we do it. why? for a better gaming experience for all.
Basically, representing one of the official factions, the Phoenix, I agree to these changes. Other faction members, post your agreement/disagreement please.
and Tel, since you are not willing to be civil in discussion, I wont "give a damn" what you post. Hallelujah .
(05-30-2014, 12:28 PM)Pavel Wrote: Discovery RP 24/7 Rules
Lyth has my full support with those changes. Moreover, I'd restrict zoner transports bigger than 3.6k from flying with any sort of cargo inside House space. Zoner powertrading is clearly an abuse of overpowered ID. House trade routes are for corporations, not for some fringe space hippies.
Ami Zoner go home.
wait. zoners can, according to rules, still pass through house space with the new changes, right? sorry, but I didnt feel like reading up before posting, lel
No. Because it would be abused just like it is right now.
"I am just watching this fight with my Colony Ship equipped with 22 turrets of neutrality" = " I am just passing through this system with Colony Ship equipped with 22 turrets of neutrality for 20 minutes already "
Yeah, we're done here......at least for now. Go play the game.
Edit:This is open again by request. One person has already taken a vacation for comments made here. We're willing to keep that up if the same behavior continues.